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I am curious - are you familiar with inflation?
Are you familiar with the sunk cost fallacy?
Are you? Because I don't think it has anything to do with what we were discussing.
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So, do you hold yourself to the same standard?
Yes
OK, that's good.
I assume then, when you've had a massive positive influence on the world, employed hundred of thousands, brought electric vehicles to the mainstream, built a rocket company and blanketed the entire planet in affordable, high speed internet, etc... then you'll agree with the people on the internet that attack you because you claim to be a better video game player than you actually are.
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Yes
OK, that's good. I assume then, when you've had a massive positive influence on the world, employed hundred of thousands, brought electric vehicles to the mainstream, built a rocket company and blanketed the entire planet in affordable, high speed internet, etc... then you'll agree with the people on the internet that attack you because you claim to be a better video game player than you actually are.
In your hypothetical you are asking that if I was a lier would I be ok with it. One would have to presume that I wouldn’t be a lier if I wasn’t also ok with it. I am neither a lier and if somehow I had lied I would also not be ok with it and would hope others hold me to a better standard.
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Elon has done sufficiently impressive things which is why it’s sad that he has to make up a whole bunch of new things to try to impress people. Being the richest man alive is not enough he also has to be the best gamer as well. If he lies about small things that don’t matter then how could I trust him to tell the truth on important things that do matter.
Howard Hughes also did impressive things. Built amazingly advanced aircraft for the era. Started a Hollywood movie studio. Owned one of the world’s largest airlines. His company (after his death of course) provided satellite IP links for decades before Elon showed up with a cheaper option. He died as an isolated insane hermit wearing kleenex boxes as shoes and collecting his urine in mason jars. I think that we have…
Hughes had untreated syphilis. He was highly promiscuous before modern antibiotics and he paid for it.
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If we build a Dyson sphere just to power chat bots, I'm turning into an eco-terrorist.
Is there something you'd prefer the shoddy beginnings of a Dyson sphere be doing? I understand thinking it would be a terrible idea in many ways, but in this scenario I think the only thing an "eco-terrorist" accomplishes is getting more servers to stay on earth where they damage the ecosystem more .
And really, we’ve had great advances in tech come out of eg the military - if AI chatbot power needs bring us Dyson spheres I’m fine with it
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can you show me how to order a vehicle with this drive pilot?
I'm sure you know more about it than I do. I'm certainly not an expert. I can say though that when my brother bought his first Tesla he paid thousands of dollars for FSD, which was supposed to be released "any day now." It's been many years and as far as I can tell it's still not REALLY here (in the sense that most people would mean it). I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but... The Tesla that he bought…
This is completely made up and/or your brother lied. Teslas always came to a slow stop if no driver attention was detected. Originally just slowly stopping in lane, now actually pulling over.
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> They want 60k for cars which have nothing in them. Other companies have now ripped the software and the iPad, so they have nothing unique You are not wrong about Tesla's base models like the 3 and Y being light on traditional 60k car features, but the second part is much more debatable. With the exception of some Chinese car manufacturers, almost no Western car makers have managed to match Tesla's software stack. I…
why are they making cars at all of the software is what they are good at?
Because traditional car companies aren’t interested in buying software that they can’t get built by cheap contractors. Tesla actually hires high end engineers to build software, and that’s not cheap.
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> They want 60k for cars which have nothing in them. Other companies have now ripped the software and the iPad, so they have nothing unique You are not wrong about Tesla's base models like the 3 and Y being light on traditional 60k car features, but the second part is much more debatable. With the exception of some Chinese car manufacturers, almost no Western car makers have managed to match Tesla's software stack. I…
Why do cars need weekly software updates? Or - more specifically, what sorts of new software-enabled features (or bug fixes) besides FSD are rolling out weekly in Teslas? Genuinely curious! Is there downtime?
Why not?
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#799Tesla had a ridiculous lead over everyone and they spaffed it. No new features, no HUD, no dashboard. They want 60k for cars which have nothing in them. Other companies have now ripped the software and the iPad, so they have nothing unique. All they had to do was continue to improve the product. They didn’t even try.
Nobody is even close on software. I’m honestly shocked more software people here don’t appreciate Tesla more for their software efforts. If you’d prefer the traditional automaker route of contracting out software to cheap labor in third world countries then ok, but you’re working against yourself
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No one is within a decade of Tesla. There are no other vehicles that can take you as easily to the grocery store as they can across the country. Buying another brand for me at this point would be like picking up a part time job as a driver. No thank you lol. FSD is all the mote that they need.
I can't tell if you're joking or serious. I recently rented a tesla on a vacation back east, and the nightmare that is charging cannot be erased. And FSD of course does not work (yet... they've been at it for 10+ years, maybe someday, who knows?). My rented 2025 MY with full self driving could barely keep itself between 2 white-painted lines! I assume this post is a troll, 'no one is within a decade of Tesla' -- are…
I own a 2023 model Y and have never had charging issues, and use FSD successfully every day.