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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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It isn't collateral damage. Hezbollah's goal is to kill Israeli civilians.

Unfortunately, the IDF also doctrinally enshrines killing Israelis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive Accountability on both sides is needed, for the violence to end.

I don't understand how that is relevant to this situation.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Zionists don't care about civilian casualties. It's extremely well documented. They even defend the explicit rape of their "prisoners". They will just explain them away as Hamas sympathizers and people will shrug their shoulders and move on.

I, like roughly 90% of the world's jews, am a zionist and I care about civilian casualties. In fact, I don't know a single zionist who doesn't care about civilian casualties. You just made up this racist nonsense, and your comment is totally inappropriate for HN. What is true is that I'd deny allegations about civilian casualties that I think are false, but that would be because I think they're false, nothing to do w…

Sure you do. Just like MAGA voters who are suffering from the decisions from their vote "didn't vote for this". Except you explicitly did. Zionism necessarily removes land and homes from people to carve out a "safe space" for Jews without any consideration for the generations you're fucking over. Just like you conveniently ignore the decades of "settlers" taking over other people's land. Just like you ignore the destruction of Palestinian wells and hospitals. Just like you ignore the rape of prisoners and the celebration among Zionists for it. It's a nasty belief system that puts Jews above other humans. It is explicitly bigoted and xenophobic and it is proudly announced and broadcast throughout Israeli society.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-idf-palestinia...

> A member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, speaking Monday at a meeting of lawmakers, justified the rape and abuse of Palestinian prisoners, shouting angrily at colleagues questioning the alleged behavior that anything was legitimate to do to "terrorists" in custody.

> Lawmaker Hanoch Milwidsky was asked as he defended the alleged abuse whether it was legitimate, "to insert a stick into a person's rectum?"

> "Yes!" he shouted in reply to his fellow parliamentarian. "If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!"

That is what you are defending. It's fucking disgusting.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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I didn't ask you for a link. I'm talking about what you think it is

I think it’s exactly what is stated in Wikipedia. A brutal crime of occupation, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, land theft and genocide.

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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This reminds me of other 20th century atrocity denial I read online. There is adequate evidence of the Truman bombing attempt. Regarding Lehi and Irgun, they were small because terrorist cells usually are. They operated with the permission of the government (evidence by the government ultimately demonstrating this when it dissolved them and incorporated many of them into itself), and involved people celebrated today…

The “20th century atrocity denial” comparison is disgusting and transparent. Holocaust denial is rejected because it contradicts a mountain of primary evidence. You are doing the opposite. You are trying to manufacture certainty where the documentation is missing, then calling anyone who asks for records a “denialist.” On the Truman claim, you keep saying “adequate evidence” while producing none. The best you have is…

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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post #745

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This reminds me of other 20th century atrocity denial I read online. There is adequate evidence of the Truman bombing attempt. Regarding Lehi and Irgun, they were small because terrorist cells usually are. They operated with the permission of the government (evidence by the government ultimately demonstrating this when it dissolved them and incorporated many of them into itself), and involved people celebrated today…

The “20th century atrocity denial” comparison is disgusting and transparent. Holocaust denial is rejected because it contradicts a mountain of primary evidence. You are doing the opposite. You are trying to manufacture certainty where the documentation is missing, then calling anyone who asks for records a “denialist.” On the Truman claim, you keep saying “adequate evidence” while producing none. The best you have is…

>The “20th century atrocity denial” comparison is disgusting and transparent

I was talking about the Holodomor, obviously.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Yes, it is. States have a clear obligation to stop the genocide in Palestine. Only the mentally infirm distrust that one is ongoing. Due to rules of process and the perpetrators waging war against the court it will likely never make a sound judgement in this case. It has, however, found reason to order Israel to take certain actions, with the express purpose of preventing genocide, which the state of Israel has refus…

Define genocide please.

"Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Suppose we believe all captions in your links, so for example we'll assume that guy in shorts and flip flops was some sort of “spy balloon manager.” It wouldn’t matter, because once you perform terrorist attacks, you’re still a terrorist even if you also attack valid targets sometimes. Same as Hamas, which is still a terrorist org despite attacking some IDF bases. Even Amnesty has acknowledged Hezbollah’s routine use…

Could you quote from that article where Amnesty makes a statement calling actions by armed factions of Hezbollah terrorism?

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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The threat they were formed to handle never went away. It's rather racist to think that the lebanese shia and their political parties are "puppets".

Hezbollah is the problem when they attack Israel unprovoked and cause Israel to strike Hezbollah in Lebanon.

What do you mean, "unprovoked"?

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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> when it comes to Israel, everything is to be distrusted Correct, with a good reason for it. Israelis have been caught lying so many times that now when they make a claim, it is on them to prove that the claim is correct, rather than on others to prove that it is not. Just a few examples off the top of my head include: - The killing of medical workers in a convoy of ambulances and burying them in shallow graves, the…

Hi there, I see you too trust Hamas sources (the origin of the Hind Rajab sotry) and not Israeli sources, so you too are in the camp of "believe hamas" and "doubt israel". 1. Hamas used World Central Kitchen vehicles, according even to the head of World Central Kitchen, who initially condemned the attack and then later admitted Hamas used WCK vehicles. You didn't know this, did you? 2. A few questions on the Hind Raj…

As per my previous assertion, it is now on Israel and their sympathizers to answer all those questions in a manner that leaves no doubt about their veracity. Watching what they are doing and what they are saying for two whole years, and the results of it all, leaves them with zero benefit of the doubt with the vast majority of people in the world.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Tell that to the dead civillians

Like the 12 Syrian Druze children Hezbollah killed in this attack? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdal_Shams_attack

Yes! Like the 18,000 children as well!
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