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Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by altmanaltman »

simonw wrote: post #206
altmanaltman wrote: post #71

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but they are a company that burns billions every year in losses and this seems like a pretty random acquisition. Bun is the product that depends on providing that good, stable, cross-platform JS runtime and they were already doing a good job. Why would Anthropic's acquisition of them make them better at what they were already doing?

> Why would Anthropic's acquisition of them make them better at what they were already doing? Because now the Bun team don't have to redirect their resources to implementing a sustainable business model.

It's Anthropic, not Microsoft. They already had a runway of 4 years, and honestly, that is preferable to hitching their wagon to a volatile startup like Antropic.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by Skywalker13 »

jasnell wrote: post #430
Skywalker13 wrote: post #391

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Hi Jarred, I contributed to Bun one time for SQLite. I've a question about the licensing. Will each contributor continue to retain their copyright, or will a CLA be introduced? Thanks

With Bun's existing OSS license and contribution model, all contributors retain their copyright and Bun retains the license to use those contributions. An acquisition of this kind cannot change the terms under which prior contributions were made without explicit agreement from all contributors. If Bun did switch to a CLA in the future, just like with any OSS project, that would only impact future contributions made a…

Hello, thank you, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm not asking for a definition, but for information about licensing decisions for the future of Bun.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by hiduck »

throwaway-0001 wrote: post #723
hiduck wrote: post #583

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more people should have such a healthy approach not only to llms but to life in general. Same reason I partake less and less in online discourse: its so tribal and filled with anger that its just not worth it to contribute anymore. Learning how to be in the middle did wonders to me as a programmer and I think as a person as well.

Personally I hate this “in the middle” as it’s so relative you can shape to fit your narrative. For example: what’s in the middle for programming? For me 0 is writing 0 and 1. For others 0 is making the nand ports. And 100 is ai llm vibe. So 50/middle would be what exactly? It all depends. Same for anything really. Some people I know keep saying not 8 not 80 to mean the middle. Like what’s in the middle for amount of…

I think both me, and person before me, were commenting more about the fact that taking reserved approach is just healthier and prevents "shitstorms" in discussions that are non existent in current internet landscape. Without offending you, but creating a straw man scenario about how much cyanide one can take and getting angry at it is exactly what I had in mind; I just code, I want to code, sometimes use llm or stack overflow or ask another person for advice about code. The approach in the middle is not taking to the extremes, and making use of any available tools to do our work/hobby and just live life and not be a target of hate (I received hateful messages and even one death threat over a comment where I said that I asked Claude to explain some concept in Zig). I could go and say that "in the middle" is more of a metaphor to just being reserved about stuff but I would be probably called out for "moving goal posts" and "backtracking on own comment". Sorry if something is written weirdly, English is not my first language, I'm open to talk more tho.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by wiz21c »

yellow_lead wrote: post #546
ok_dad wrote: post #537

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Yea, they just posted this a few days ago: https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/advanced-tool-use They discussed how running generated code is better for context management in many cases. The AI can generate code to retrieve, process, and filter the data it needs rather than doing it in-context, thus reducing context needs. Furthermore, if you can run the code right next to the server where the data is, it's all tha…

Java can run anywhere too

Java is owned by Oracle. And you sure don't want to do business with that company. There's a reason why postgresql is slowly eating their cake.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by throwaway-0001 »

hiduck wrote: post #795
throwaway-0001 wrote: post #723

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Personally I hate this “in the middle” as it’s so relative you can shape to fit your narrative. For example: what’s in the middle for programming? For me 0 is writing 0 and 1. For others 0 is making the nand ports. And 100 is ai llm vibe. So 50/middle would be what exactly? It all depends. Same for anything really. Some people I know keep saying not 8 not 80 to mean the middle. Like what’s in the middle for amount of…

I think both me, and person before me, were commenting more about the fact that taking reserved approach is just healthier and prevents "shitstorms" in discussions that are non existent in current internet landscape. Without offending you, but creating a straw man scenario about how much cyanide one can take and getting angry at it is exactly what I had in mind; I just code, I want to code, sometimes use llm or stack…

Maybe your “sometimes” is too much for me or others. How can you ensure it’s in the “middle”? Maybe I consider extreme. Maybe others consider not enough. Like driving every day: is it extreme driving, or moderate?

You see how makes no sense this in the “middle” concept?

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by pjmlp »

mythz wrote: post #709
yellow_lead wrote: post #546

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Java can run anywhere too

AI tools value simplicity, fast bootstrapping and iterations, this rules out the JVM which has the worst build system and package repositories I've ever had the displeasure of needing to use. Check in gradle binaries in 2025? Having to wait days for packages to sync? Windows/Linux gradle wrappers for every project? Broken builds and churn after every major upgrade. It's broken beyond repair. By contrast `bun install`…

Gradle is something that only Android devs should be using, and because of Google imposes its use. Had not been for Google and Android Gradle plugin, almost no one would care.

Please give me Java tools over C, C++, JavaScript or Python ones, any day of the week.

Only .NET and Rust compare equally in quality of DX.

AI tools value simplicity?!?

Check in the Python dependency management chaos, what it is the proposal this month, from what AI startup doing Python tools in Rust?

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by Topfi »

sander1095 wrote: post #782
jimbob45 wrote: post #768

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Java’s cardinal sin was not owning the OS like Microsoft’s C# to force end-users to update the framework. Oracle really didn’t understand what they were sitting on with their Ubuntu competitor Solaris.

This has no longer been the case for C# for 10 years since the release of .NET Core and (now) .NET. The runtime is no longer bundled with the OS. This is only true for older .NET Framework applications.

Isn’t it post installation still updated via Windows Update as they said (force end-users to update the framework)?

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Post by locknitpicker »

miguelspizza wrote: post #732
locknitpicker wrote: post #671

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> It also has TypeScript which pairs well with agentic coding loops, (...) I've heard that TypeScript is pretty rough on agentic coding loops because the idiomatic static type assertion code ends up requiring huge amounts of context to handle in a meaningful way. Is there any truth to it?

Not sure where you heard this but general sentiment is the opposite. There was recently a conference which was themed around the idea that typescript monorepos are the best way to build with AI

> Not sure where you heard this but general sentiment is the opposite.

My personal experience and anecdotal evidence is in line with this hypothesis. Using the likes of Microsoft's own Copilot with small simple greenfield TypeScript 5 projects results in surprisingly poor results the minute you start leaning heavily on type safety and idiomatic techniques such as branded types.

> There was recently a conference which was themed around the idea that typescript monorepos are the best way to build with AI

There are also flat earth conferences.

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