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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#792

There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.

The Indian constitution too gives the President the power to pardon someone convicted. However, the Supreme Court has since clarified that this power is not absolute, and the court can subject it to a judicial review. ( https://compass.rauias.com/current-affairs/pardoning-powers-... ).

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#793

For the accurate context: CZ was pardoned for a single charge of failure to have an effective compliance program. No fraud, no victims, no criminal history. No money laundering. CZ is the first and only known first-time offender in U.S. history to receive a prison sentence for this single, non-fraud-related charge. The judge found no evidence that he knew of any illicit transactions and that it was reasonable for him…

I don't get the outrage either.

He was sentenced to 4 months in prison. He already served that time and got out.

So what does a parden get him? No criminal record?

This pardon seems rather minor to me.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#795

Most corrupt president in living memory (ever?) pardons convicted corrupt businessman, while directly profiting from said corrupt businessman's industry Years ago people would have thought you were talking about the DRC, Haiti or Uzbekistan. Today's it's the USA.

Don't kid yourself, US political corruption pre-dates Trump. This is just bringing it to a new level.

It's honestly a shame that comments from people like you will be silently forgotten, when your unending ceaseless discharge of excuses to sweep the rug for the current status quo should be something that you should never be allowed to forget. I guess you have a point though, a flame left unextinguished will only grow and that was the result here. Not too many outcomes remain when you only add more fuel, but there is always another way to solve that problem :)

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#796

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They were fed "waste fraud and abuse" in the beginning of the year. and suddenly it happens in broad daylight and people shrug? At this point it's just brainwashing. Some people's principals are clearly less about their own conviction and treating all this like a sports team. Whoever team "wins", even if the stadium burns down around them.

It's privately funded so it doesn't fit under "waste, fraud, and abuse" in the same vein as things that use taxpayer money. Conflict of interest by attempting to curry favor for his vanity project by making donations? That's a fair criticism.

”Libs hate this one weird trick - bribes isn’t waste, fraud and abuse!

Learn more at TrumpIsKing.gov”

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#797

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> Here on HN bothsidesism is a shibboleth that denotes "I'm a Serious Commenter and not a Partisan Hack". HN users don't necessarily do that because they want to. They might do it as a pre-emptive defense mechanism against the brigades of de-facto censors that roam the site. Moderation via populism is an anti-feature on its face, but Hacker News has the worst possible version of that sort of feature by making downvot…

I have showdead enabled, and in my experience, the only dead comments are ones which violate the site guidelines or are otherwise Bad Posts regardless of the political affiliation of the poster. Stuff like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45689291

I also have showdead enabled and in any remotely controversial thread, among the uncontroversial Bad Posts you will find a reasonable number of posts that are well argued and have effort put into them, but get downvoted anyway.

There are a number of reasonable posts in this very thread that are either already dead or on their way out - and I don't even agree with some of their positions.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#798

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I have showdead enabled, and in my experience, the only dead comments are ones which violate the site guidelines or are otherwise Bad Posts regardless of the political affiliation of the poster. Stuff like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45689291

I also have showdead enabled and in any remotely controversial thread, among the uncontroversial Bad Posts you will find a reasonable number of posts that are well argued and have effort put into them, but get downvoted anyway. There are a number of reasonable posts in this very thread that are either already dead or on their way out - and I don't even agree with some of their positions.

Maybe some examples from this thread of the actually dead ones?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#799

There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.

The Indian constitution too gives the President the power to pardon someone convicted. However, the Supreme Court has since clarified that this power is not absolute, and the court can subject it to a judicial review. ( https://compass.rauias.com/current-affairs/pardoning-powers-... ).

You're comparing our (flawed) democracy with a fake democracy.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#800

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I don’t think the majority of voting Americans have problems with any of those acts though. Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White House ballroom?

The White House is a pretty significant symbol of this country, so yeah, I think they might care that a big chunk of it was just torn down.

You think they're too dumb to understand the difference between "tearing down" and "renovating"?

I assure you, they are not.

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