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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ars »

odo1242 wrote: post #437
SwamyM wrote: post #297

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> 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unsorted photos are. When I sit in a bus or in a cafe, I go through it and sort the new photos into folders. This seems impossible on iPhones. Everything stays in the main folder forever. You can add photos to albums, but that does not remove them from the main folder. So there is no way to know which photos I have already…

> This along with iOS dumping pictures from WhatsApp, etc. into your main pictures folder is such a huge deal breaker for me. This is WhatsApp's fault. "Settings > Chats > Save To Photos OFF" should fix it

That doesn't fix it, that just means I don't see WhatsApp photos.

I want the two photos in different places.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by leptons »

selcuka wrote: post #702
leptons wrote: post #634

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Except iPhone doesn't have a larger market share, and they aren't being used by 80% of the world's population. Where are you pulling these numbers from? iPhone only has a larger market share in the US, and not by much. Worldwide they are very small compared to android.

> they aren't being used by 80% of the world's population. I said "iPhone is more appealing to 80%+ of world's population". I didn't say everyone who wants it can afford it. It's pure speculation, of course, but given its current market share (27% of all devices sold) and its price point, I don't think it's too far fetched to say that its market share would be much higher if price wasn't an issue for people. This is…

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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by zer0zzz »

d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695
dakiol wrote: post #57

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> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

I can empathize. I have some similar rules:

- if an app won’t sign up without a phone number I don’t use it anymore

- if a product is single purpose, and isn’t a phone or some jogging tracker or a set top box I don’t buy it

- if a product requires me to sign into a service for it to do anything, I don’t buy it

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by goyagoji »

com2kid wrote: post #769
goyagoji wrote: post #743

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You are trying to twist if to their favor that the market and not Google specifically is known for hardware problems, recalls and making a camera that 95% of people don't have any use for. What they have is control of Android which allowed them to cancel Android One to build a larger market for the pricing they want using pressure. Look at what a marvel we can force them to buy for no reason! 80% of them have never m…

Google's phones are a minor bit player in the market. They have an estimated 4% of US market share. OnePlus was kicking their butts until OnePlus decided to destroy their entire value prop and also laid off their much beloved software team. But if you want a mid priced phone, go ahead and buy one. A CMF 2 pro has 6 years of security updates, it costs $279. > 80% of them have never made a video intentionally. I find t…

> Or in the case of my OnePlus, their updates added so much of their own shit to a once pure OS

Same situation on preinstalled laptops and Android. You are complaining about Google in relation to Microsoft.

Android One was a correction to how their system should work and it wouldn't help their goals to sell $100 phones that are secure, all an older adult would typically want, not particularly engaging for marketers, competing with their flagship phones for people who will pay and accept any quality in pointless toys.

Even their own A series has been a problem for them since it covers what any reasonable person would want (in a flagship eliminating way). So let's restrict the charging bellow the lowest industry standards, etc.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by gambiting »

d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695
dakiol wrote: post #57

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> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

>>I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered.

How are people "fussing with unlocking their phones" to pay though? It literally couldn't be any easier - I pull it out, touch the screen on the fingerprint sensor to unlock it and tap on the terminal, done. It's about 200x easier than pulling the card out of my wallet, and the card can only be used for contactless up to a certain amount, and half the time it randomly asks me for my pin anyway so the whole benefit of contactless is lost. Paying with your phone is a massive improvement to convenience.

>> When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one.

I mean I hope you recognize the incredible priviledge behind that statement - for a lot of people tinkering with their laptop isn't about being a hobby IT person, it's about the fact that a new laptop costs half their salary so it's quite literally not an option.

>> life is too short to spend my Saturday morning messing with HomeAssistant.

Sure but you make it sound like it's a chore - most people(I'd guess) set up HA because it provides value in their lives, that other, more simpler devices cannot provide. So at the cost of X number of hours once a year you get a device that consolidates all of your home automation and data. If you could buy a premade device that did it without fuss - I'm sure a lot of people would.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by leokennis »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

Regarding the second point, while I gladly agree the current iOS Photos app is a mess, doesn't it make sense to have photos in multiple albums? If I went on holiday to Brazil and made a nice photo of my son there, I'd like that photo to be in both the "Brazil holiday" and "Beautiful photos of my children" albums, not just in one folder.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by prmoustache »

gambiting wrote: post #795
d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695

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I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

>>I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. How are people "fussing with unlocking their phones" to pay though? It literally couldn't be any easier - I pull it out, touch the screen on the fingerprint sensor to unlock it and tap on the terminal, done. It's about 200x easier than pulling the card out of my wallet, and the card can only be used for contactless up to…

> How are people "fussing with unlocking their phones" to pay though? It literally couldn't be any easier - I pull it out, touch the screen on the fingerprint sensor to unlock it and tap on the terminal, done. It's about 200x easier than pulling the card out of my wallet, and the card can only be used for contactless up to a certain amount, and half the time it randomly asks me for my pin anyway so the whole benefit of contactless is lost. Paying with your phone is a massive improvement to convenience.

Sweaty/wet hands can make unlocking unreliable, some people have multiple cards and need to select the correct one, sometimes their phone is lagging and taking time getting the wallet screen opening, etc. It is not uncommon to see people struggling for a few seconds with their watch or smartphone. So do people not finding their wallet in a bag too or failing to grab a card from a physical wallet too to be honest. I wouldn't say one option is 200x easier, both are pretty much on equal terms imho.

I don't use wallet because I don't have a google account on my phone anyway nor would it work with my grapheneOS AFAIK anyway.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by rantallion »

gambiting wrote: post #795
d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695

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I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

>>I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. How are people "fussing with unlocking their phones" to pay though? It literally couldn't be any easier - I pull it out, touch the screen on the fingerprint sensor to unlock it and tap on the terminal, done. It's about 200x easier than pulling the card out of my wallet, and the card can only be used for contactless up to…

> Paying with your phone is a massive improvement to convenience.

And it only gets easier when you pay with a watch - you don't even have to pull your phone out of your pocket!

My cards only come out when I'm making a large purchase that I want extra protection on (think the UK's Section 75) and these are usually purchases I know about in advance - otherwise my wallet stays at home most days.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by rwyinuse »

d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #695
dakiol wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

I'm right there with you. I work in tech, but I don't want to fuss with tech when I'm off the clock. Like, it all annoys me and just feels like work. When my router breaks I just buy a new one. When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one. I see people fussing with unlocking their phones to pay for lunch and I am totally bewildered. Why is it so hard to pull a card out of your pocket? I have…

>> When my laptop gives me the first sign of trouble I just buy a new one.

Well, some people enjoy fixing old things. Even though I work in tech I don't get to fix physical devices at work, which means fixing them at home doesn't feel like work at all. Rather it feels like an excellent and fun way to save money for something more meaningful than buying a new router or laptop.

I have some passion for technology, but zero passion for wasting the little money I'm paid on expensive devices, which will be outdated in a couple of years anyway.

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