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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by daft_pink »

Cheer2171 wrote: post #490
daft_pink wrote: post #114

I lived through the BLM protests in a liberal city. They let them destroy everything, then they called in the National Guard to stop looting that already happened. Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of…

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Sorry, shattered most of the windows of the central business district, destroyed virtually every grocery store and pharmacy to the point of an almost total loss, carried away most anything of value that could be reasonably carried away on foot from any retailer or small business, vandalized tons of private property/vehicles. Lit tons of police cars on fire.

I don’t still live there. Honestly, it convinced me right or wrong that the only reason I’m able to live in the city was because the police are there to sort of enforce the laws and that there is a certain percentage of the population that will steal everything as soon as they think there is an opportunity. Compare that to the suburbs where you could leave valuables out in your yard and no one would take them convinced me that I would rather raise a family in a stable mostly crime free environment.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by robomartin »

kstrauser wrote: post #606
matt-attack wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

That’s a lie. The actual number was closer to 4 million. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/uni...

That page is a joke. Ignoring reality does not manufacture a new reality. Four million might be the legal migration count, hard to say.

We had caravans of tens of thousands of people constantly streaming into the US for four years. The video evidence is out there for everyone to see. News outlets that did not engage in hiding reality and promoting falsehoods had crews at the border every day for four years collecting video evidence of what was going on.

If you care about understanding the truth, go to the US Customs and Border Protection website and look around. You can also cross check with Homeland Security and other official sources. And, yes, you will find data that predates the Trump administration...so you can't blame bias. For example, if I remember correctly, there were over THREE MILLION unauthorized entries in 2024.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by spencerflem »

lordfrito wrote: post #757

More and more I don't understand what's happening with all of these political articles making it to the front page of HN and stuffed full of charged comments and lots of grey. We may be smart techies but the arguments here about politics seem awfully reductive. We're out of our lane on most of this. What's with all the hate here? The commentary here feels like its sliding it's way towards Reddit. Maybe I'm wrong, or…

I think its reflective of broader society. For this issue in specific-

You either think sending the military to break up protests against the wishes of the governor and mayor and against the bounds of the constituion is a problem, or you are insane.

When ICE wears masks and whisks people off the street and sends them to overseas torture camps without warning or due process, you are either opposed or insane.

There's honestly no room for nuance on this. We're reaching the point where Trump is sending the military to enforce his unconstitutional actions. Things are awful right now and are about to get so much worse.

To be clear- if you support what's happening here: you are a bad person. i genuinely hate you.

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #629
bufferoverflow wrote: post #472

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Colin Kaepernick protested very peacefully and people were irate. The vice president went out of his way to just to walk out of a game. Let's stop with the "I'd be ok if it was a peaceful protest" nonsense. The protests in LA were peaceful until the military showed up. It was intentionally escalated because they know people will believe anything they see on TV. The burning cars didn't happen until after the military…

No military assets were deployed in response to Colin Kaepernick's peaceful protests.

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Post by ChoGGi »

undersuit wrote: post #725
ChoGGi wrote: post #527

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Nobody should be trampled, but for some context there was a Molotov about 10 seconds beforehand, and the first trample was a horse being spooked by some fireworks. Longer vid: https://streamable.com/bc1sog Still doesn't make it right.

I was watching live. There are better views. I don't think you throw Molotovs at your feet. https://www.twitch.tv/rhyzohm/clip/SmellyCourageousSardineTT... Your linked video is in the background in my clip.

Well, I mean, not intentionally :)

Thanks though, better angle.

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Post by robomartin »

righthand wrote: post #638
matt-attack wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

We had no problem in NY handling the influx. In fact we handled it so well that it angered the Republicans even more because they still gave immigration money to Texas AND had to give more money to the sanctuary cities. A problem they created and reaped the effects. There were not 12 million immigrants entering during the Biden administration. Please provide balanced proof. The only people in NY that claimed we could…

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Trump would not have won if Dems had not escalated illegal immigration 2020-24. It was such an unforced error on Biden's part

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Post by JCattheATM »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #798
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Trump would not have won if Dems had not escalated illegal immigration 2020-24. It was such an unforced error on Biden's part

That was never a real issue, it was just something pushed by Fox.

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

vel0city wrote: post #613
matt-attack wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

> declare they simply cannot handle the influx They cannot handle it with the resources being given. This is true for the red states like Texas and what not, the social services we do have struggle to handle the load. But we're choosing to let these systems struggle . We could solve it if we chose to do so. In 2020 our population was ~330 million people. Even if 12 million people immigrated to the United States, that…

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