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My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Post by imhoguy »

cesarb wrote: post #312

This article does not touch on the thing which worries me the most with respect to LLMs: the dependence . Unless you can run the LLM locally, on a computer you own, you are now completely dependent on a remote centralized system to do your work. Whoever controls that system can arbitrarily raise the prices, subtly manipulate the outputs, store and do anything they want with the inputs, or even suddenly cease to opera…

Even FOSS-based development depends on walled gardens, it is evident every time when GitHub is down.

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Post by Fredkin »

My main concern is not even mentioned in this article and there are hardly any comments here addressing it: Privacy / allowing 3rd parties to read and potentially train on your proprietary source code.

I've used LLMs to crank out code for tedious things (like generating C-APIs and calling into poorly documented libraries) but I'm not letting them touch my code until I can run it 100% locally offline. Would love to use the agentic stuff but from what I've heard it's still too slow to run on a high end workstation with a single 4080.

Or have things got better lately, and crucially is there good VisualStudio integration for running local agents / LLMs?

Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Post by oblio »

Fredkin wrote: post #793

My main concern is not even mentioned in this article and there are hardly any comments here addressing it: Privacy / allowing 3rd parties to read and potentially train on your proprietary source code. I've used LLMs to crank out code for tedious things (like generating C-APIs and calling into poorly documented libraries) but I'm not letting them touch my code until I can run it 100% locally offline. Would love to us…

The problem is, it's like ads. Even if it's a paid subscription, the incentive to hoover up your code, metadata about your code or everything they can get away with is just too strong. I think it will just happen at some point, unless you run them 100% locally or hosted somewhere but self managed.

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Post by julvo »

Fredkin wrote: post #793

My main concern is not even mentioned in this article and there are hardly any comments here addressing it: Privacy / allowing 3rd parties to read and potentially train on your proprietary source code. I've used LLMs to crank out code for tedious things (like generating C-APIs and calling into poorly documented libraries) but I'm not letting them touch my code until I can run it 100% locally offline. Would love to us…

Do you store code on GitHub? If so, how is GH's guarantee to not use your code different from Cursor's (with privacy mode enabled)?

Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Post by yahoozoo »

d--b wrote: post #97

Yeah, and it’s progressing so fast. Singularity is definitely on the table. Whoever says otherwise should read their own comments from 2 years ago and see how wrong they were about where AI is today. Not saying singularity will happen for sure, but is it a possibility? Hell yeah.

Tell me you don’t understand LLMs without telling me you don’t understand LLMs.

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Post by xmodem »

ang_cire wrote: post #752

One thing that really bothered me that the author glossed over (perhaps they don't care, given the tone of the article) is where they said: > Does an intern cost $20/month? Because that’s what Cursor.ai costs. > Part of being a senior developer is making less-able coders productive, be they fleshly or algebraic. But do you know what another part of being a senior developer is? Not just making them more productive, bu…

Further, Cursor might cost $20/month today, but to what degree is that subsidized by VC investment? All the information we have points to frontier models just not being profitable to run at those types of prices, and those investors are going to want a return at some point.

Re: My AI skeptic friends are all nuts

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Post by pera »

It's fascinating how over the past year we have had almost daily posts like this one, yet from the outside everything looks exactly the same, isn't that very weird?

Why haven't we seen an explosion of new start-ups, products or features? Why do we still see hundreds of bug tickets on every issue tracking page? Have you noticed anything different on any changelog?

I invite tptacek, or any other chatbot enthusiast around, to publish project metrics and show some actual numbers.

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