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Post by Loughla »

Uptrenda wrote: post #658

Watching hacker news try use cold analytical intellect to deconstruct 4chan's jokes and culture (and still missing the point) has got to be the funniest joke ever. Perhaps a little more analysis will yield the answer to understanding the complexity of a green frog or running bear. Though I wouldn't count on it. It has to mean something nefarious. Much like the soft 'schlop schlop schlop' of a dog's tongue lapping up…

From what I can tell, there's not much analysis of 4chan going on here, but more people just sort of remembering their time on the site.

That's what this has been for me; a walk down memory Lane to my teenage edgelord years.

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Post by weberer »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #664

/lit/ is a goldmine, I’ve discovered so many amazing books there. Everywhere else on the web is algorithm or voting skewed so no real opinions can be shared

They even wrote their own book collaboratively

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28282177-hypersphere

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Post by Zambyte »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #741
PixelForg wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main problem with 4chan is how they talk, like the language they use. They really don't care about anyone's feelings and show a lack of empathy. Unfortunately this has been spreading to other social media as well. Imagine how good a place it could have been if people over there talked like people on HN.

Nobody on Twitter or Reddit or Bluesky or Facebook or whatever ever cared about anyone’s feelings either, they just avoid using certain no-no words.

I have an awesome circle of people on Bluesky that I'm connected with that very much care about each others feelings. I'm sure that's not universal on there, but the corner that I'm in on there has probably been my most pleasant experience on the internet ever.

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Post by whstl »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #581
ryandrake wrote: post #556

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> Just with a bunch of extra features hastily grafted and grown organically, but never dealing with the insane amount of technical debt. This describes probably 95%+ of the entire software world, from enterprise, to SaaS to IoT to mobile to desktop to embedded... Everything seems to be hastily thrown together features that barely work and piles of debt that will never get fixed. It's a wonder anything actually even w…

>If cars (the non-software parts) were made like this, there would be millions of them breaking down by the side of the road daily. I’m an automotive CE… we’re getting there. Cars used to be DONE at lots… now, there are weeks to finish code before the customer lays hands on, and that time is factored in now. Worse with OTA updates. Now, so long as it’s fixed if enough customers complain that’s good enough. Cars used…

This reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story where traffic engineers design pedestrian-heavy intersections without traffic lights because it makes drivers more careful.

We now have sloppy software simply because we can update bugs later.

This is a purely social problem that won't get solved with technology.

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Post by Zambyte »

sph wrote: post #702
HaZeust wrote: post #662

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HN is 4chan in many ways - the smart, civilized people just come here. Whereas the smart people that are willing to act disabled go there.

HN is older 4chan. On the imageboard, you have the constant feeling you are arguing against 12 year olds.

Edit: this post is irrelevant to the context.

4chan is four years older than Startup News (the original name of Hacker News).

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Post by monadgonad »

snvzz wrote: post #538
scryers_bloom wrote: post #69

We've heard it time and time again that 4chan is the so called "last bastion of free speech on the internet" when this so called free speech is just being unapologetically racist and antisemitic. I hope its gone for good.

>unapologetically racist and antisemitic. Anyone who's actually familiar with 4chan knows that posts containing any of that are cracked on hard, both by other users (replies calling it out) and janitors (delete+ban).

I'm not sure how you've come to that impression. The boards I used to frequent are hobbyist ones, not political, yet they have people calling each other the n-word all the time. On /fit/ anything done by a large corporation or as a moneymaking scheme is talked about as if it's a Jewish conspiracy, to the point where they call highly-processed food "goyslop". /g/ hates Indians and calls software and technology that it likes "the white man's choice." I could go on. This pervasive background of racism is all over 4chan, and I wonder why you're trying to downplay it.

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Post by s3krit »

timeinput wrote: post #391
Red_Tarsius wrote: post #88

I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

Piling on the "some parts of 4chan was good until it wasn't" theme: I really liked /ck/ for a while. Then there was this weird trend of just like "all food tubers are garbage" whether that was "Kenji-Cucks", or people hating on Rageusa, or what ever. Combining that with the "post hands" request for a lot of food it was just an unpleasant community to participate it. Weirdly trying to load the page right now I'm getti…

/ck/ from around 2015 to hmm… maybe 2018-19 was pretty good, and probably my home board. Decent cook along threads (I hope Patti is doing ok), /ck/ challenge threads where there was some theme we had to follow and posts would get ranked… and of course the yearly lemon pig [1] threads. Sadly I guess fast food posting, shitting on foodtubers, and general /pol/ shittery made it go down in my view. Still went there most days until yesterday though.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_pig

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Post by ogurechny »

PixelForg wrote: post #593
shipscode wrote: post #126

The take on 4chan on here is super intriguing. I always felt that the current social media/doomscroll/memesharing landscape which has become so common worldwide is indiscernable and in some ways worse than 4chan. It feels like 4chan left it's homepage and went worldwide sometime in the early 2010s when iPhone-style phone use became more commonplace. I remember that 4chan users had more honor than users on the interne…

My main problem with 4chan is how they talk, like the language they use. They really don't care about anyone's feelings and show a lack of empathy. Unfortunately this has been spreading to other social media as well. Imagine how good a place it could have been if people over there talked like people on HN.

There is no “they”.

Like many others coming from social web, you expect to find some kind of community which fashions everyone shares, an apparel you can put on. The idea is complete opposite: you don't need to follow any fashion, or imagine yourself “part of the team” any more than you want to. Even though it's not written in any rules, you don't have to use slang or tone if you find them dumb, overused (globally or locally), or forced. Neither do you have to treat stupid posts with respect.

I assume that after 15-20 years of being part of collective consciousness, anonymous image boards have mostly the same public as any average site. Amount of crap that you can read there is just the same as everywhere (though in some cases this or that Big Brother hides it from your view — obviously, to make you more comfortable, and spend more time in his warm embrace). The difference is that regular social fashions mandate the use of suitable set of candy wrappers for the crap, then there are customary ways of dealing with them, so in the end people just spend their time wrapping and unwrapping crap, but are proud of themselves, and call it “civilised discourse”.

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Post by [deleted] »

cudder wrote: post #782
bibabaloo wrote: post #769

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Planes have just as much spaghetti code as anything else, the only difference is that it's extremely well tested (functionally) and verified spaghetti code.

It's not hard to imagine there would be even more than in less verified fields, since if you try to clean it up you need to verify it again too.

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Post by anonfordays »

1oooqooq wrote: post #776
donnachangstein wrote: post #552

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> Don't run versions of ghostscript from 2012? Per Wikipedia: In February 2013, with version 9.07, Ghostscript changed its license from GPLv3 to GNU AGPL. With the AGPL license being legal kryptonite I wonder if license compatibility drove the decision (and how many other installations of Ghostscript share this concern)?

uninformed or malicious FUD. agpl is no different than gpl if you're distributing applications. if you host the functionality of the application with improvements then it's rightly so cryptonite and you deserve it.

Sad to see less and less AGPL code out there. It's truly one if the best licenses to prevent the SV MO of taking shit they didn't make and selling it as if they did.
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