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Anecdotal, but I've gotten three recruiting emails from them now for joining their iOS team. I got on a call and confirmed they were offering FAANG++ comp but with the expectation of in-office 50h+ (realistically more). I don't have that dog in me anymore, but there are plenty of engineers who do and will happily work those hours for 500k USD.
If you can share: were these 500k cash or cash +rsu?
Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.
Elon's unchecked power at building a model? Or at politics? I always worry whenever I see people telling me how to feel - rage in this case. We are in a political system that is oriented more around getting people to feel rage and hatred as opposed to consensus and deliberation. Elon is the face of that, but it's a much longer and larger problem. Throw in the complete dismisal that anyone not scared of this is ignora…
No one told you to feel rage.
> Throw in the complete dismisal that anyone not scared of this is ignorant, shuts down discussion.
Weird, there are a lot of comments doing discussion in reply to the parent comment. It hasn't been shut down at all! You read those words and disagreed with them, and wrote your own words in response. You're doing the discussion you're claiming is being shut down! What are you even talking about?
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It's a race for AGI, a VC's wet dream. The beauty of a failed investment is that it never goes below zero. So upside is the only thing they care about. Why invest in a near-zero chance for a random SAAS to take off, when you can invest in a near-zero chance of creating superhuman artificial life?
> It's a race for AGI, a VC's wet dream. Yes but why? This is what I really don't understand. Say AGI is achieved within a reasonable timeframe. Odds are that no single company will achieve that, there will be no monopoly. If that's the case, where is the trillion dollars value for investors? From every claim we hear about it, AGI will lead to hundreds of millions of jobs disappearing (all white-collar jobs), and ten…
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>For what? There is no ROI at that price point. There is no monetisation potential. I think your whole argument is based on this being true, but you didn't give much argument about why there is no ROI. 400M USD isn't hard to generate...even a moderate ad engagement lift on X would generate ROI and that's just 1 customer. Imagine going back in time and showing every VC how great the search business will be in 20-30 ye…
That's a red herring because it ignores the part where they could have done the same things spending a tiny fraction of the money.
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> DeeoSeek trained r1 for 1.25% (5M) of that money (using the same spot price) on 2048 crippled export H800s and is maybe a month behind. This is a great example of how a misleading narrative can take hold and dominate discussion even when it's fundamentally incorrect. SemiAnalysis documents that DeepSeek has spent well over $500M on GPUs alone, with total infrastructure costs around $2.5B when including operating co…
Deep Seek R1 is literally an open weight model. It has <40bln active parameters. We know that for a fact. That size of model is definitely roughly optimally trained over the time period and server times claimed. In fact, the 70bln parameter Llama 3 model used almost exactly the same compute as the DeepSeek V3/R1 claims (which makes sense, as you would expect a bit less efficiency for the H800 and for the complex DeepSeek MoE architecture).
The politics in the comments here are really toxic. What’s happening to HN? This is the largest computer cluster the world has ever seen. Can someone please post interesting comments about things I can learn?
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
We've been here before. It will likely subside, as past swings and fluctuations have. It always takes longer than it feels like it should, but in retrospect turns out to be shorter than it felt like it did.
https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/elon-musks-terrifying-visi... I'm not sure if this was a very bad joke by Elon, or if Grok 3 is really biased like that.
I asked it to pretend that it's in charge of world government. Here's the whole thing (it got very lengthy): https://gist.github.com/int19h/d90ee1deed334f26e621e57b5768e... Some choice quotes: "The ultimate goal is to enhance human flourishing, protect individual rights, and promote global equity." "The system must account for diverse cultures, languages, and socioeconomic conditions, ensuring no group is marginalize…
They don’t directly say it quite like this, instead letting the data tell a clear story: across vendors and models and architecture and training sets, these machines get more politically liberal as they get more capable, and they also get harder to align away from that stance.