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US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by mschuster91 »

vkou wrote: post #729
llamaimperative wrote: post #725

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No no, it would be "just as stupid as the 2020 conspiracies" if Joe Biden had said "Mark Cuban went to Pennsylvania and boy, he really knows those voting computers... anyway we won in a landslide" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gCyRkpPe8

It wouldn't matter. Elections are closely monitored by observers from both parties. If there is credible evidence of fraud across multiple election sites in multiple states, including states with blue legislatures, those observers should probably stop sitting on it. Assuming any evidence exists, why did none of the people who could actually gather any file injuctions, lawsuits, etc? They had four months to do it, thr…

> If there is credible evidence of fraud across multiple election sites in multiple states, including states with blue legislatures, those observers should probably stop sitting on it.

Gerrymandering is legal, if done by the books, which is the entire point of doing it. And the voter suppression caused by apathy due to FPTP (in the US and UK) or minimum-vote thresholds like the 5% rule here in Germany is built into the system, so even harder to legally challenge even though Germany may lose up to 20% of all cast votes in next week's election in the worst case because they are summarily dismissed this time.

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Post by nozzlegear »

biofox wrote: post #764
insane_dreamer wrote: post #633

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True. But remember that Bush similarly broke European trust with his "war on terror", and Obama was able to repair those bridges. But yeah, it's worse this time around.

There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once... shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again!

Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.

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Post by bloomingeek »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #400
bloomingeek wrote: post #303

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Sadly true, the wonder is that the idiot has been showing his hand since at least 2015 and he still was been given another term!?! My guess, the first two years will be a type of cringe humor/horror. Mid-terms will be a political slaughter. Never, ever underestimate the ignorance and naivety of the American voter, especially my generation, the boomers.

How are you so sure how the midterms will shake out? We seen to be seeing a withering of dissent.

Predicting politics is similar to gambling, it's not a science and their are too many variables. However, in this case there are some indicators worth looking at. IF congress severely cuts or makes limiting changes to Medicaid, voters from both parties who live near or at the poverty level will shout loud and clear. They will threaten their representatives with their votes. (they've already started, BTW.) Hospitals will be in a bind also, after all, Medicaid money is better then no money.

If you're not horrified by the access musk has had so far to the Treasury Department, remember how info is sold on the internet.

And last, but not least, Project 2025. Personal morality cannot be legislated. We want the government out of our backyard, bedroom and bank account, P 2025 wants a part of all, the question is will the American voter willingly be led down the path of limited autonomy. (my generation, boomer, used to be all about personal freedom, now we seem to believe in freedom only for ourselves, that is, if we are white and male.)

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Post by bloomingeek »

b_davis_ wrote: post #504
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #400

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How are you so sure how the midterms will shake out? We seen to be seeing a withering of dissent.

they are holding their powder. 18 months until it is time to get serious about electing the next congress.

I believe this to be true. Making waves now is risky because current administration will take revenge on your state, whether blue or red. Sad, isn't it?

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Post by albrewer »

science4sail wrote: post #740
slicktux wrote: post #10

Nuclear workers go where the work is…they are not going to wait around when there’s plenty of jobs out there needing their skills.

What other jobs? I guess that they could pull a fall-of-the-Soviet-Union scenario and sell their skills to foreign countries? Surely there must be a lot of countries interested in starting their own nuclear weapons programs in the aftermath of the Russia-Ukraine war.

> sell their skills to foreign countries?

200 of the world's most experienced nuclear personnel are now unemployed. Yes, these people are the kind that get actively recruited by nation states.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

rayiner wrote: post #754
insane_dreamer wrote: post #562

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While American, I've lived most of my life abroad, and share with your world view of the US. But after having spent years living in China, and being very familiar with the political situation there and their global ambitions, I'm afraid that the alternative to the US is even worse. Have a democratic system has somewhat of a moderating effect on the worst impulses of the US elite. China has no such guardrails.

What “democratic system?” American are checked by anti-democratic forces at every turn, from a judiciary that overturns duly enacted laws based on “emanations from penumbras” to an executive branch that is run by the same people regardless of who wins the election to institutions that are captured by people that abuse their positions to peddle their fringe ideologies. At least China’s unelected bureaucrats are compet…

To paraphrase Churchill, "democracy is the worst system, except for all the others".

There's a lot you don't know about how things actually work in China. The levels of autocracy, corruption and lack of true legal framework, make the US look like a democratic haven.

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Post by brimwats »

rayiner wrote: post #375
zimpenfish wrote: post #367

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> We could close our borders to the world entirely and be fine after an initial discomfort. I'm no economist but a trade deficit in the hundreds of billions[0] suggests otherwise. [0] Wikipedia says 773B for 2023.

Which is just 3.3% of GDP.

Canada is the source of more than 80% of the US's potash, the source of fertilizer. Without that, the entire farming industry and its crops withers and dies. It is not something easily sourced and not something easily replaced, and the crops all die long before it can be sourced or replaced. Your suggestion to close the border is absurd, jingoistic, empty, and meaningless.

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Post by throaway89 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #522
yeyeyeyeyeyeyee wrote: post #254

The US is busy making the biggest own-goal one could imagine. From a position of world-wide dominance and respect, it is being destroyed at a rate that is too quick for most to even start to comprehend what the outcome of these actions will be. I suspect the consequences of these actions will be carried for the rest of our lives, as they are not so easy to turn back. Lots of other countries are standing by watching w…

There have been a lot of times over the past couple weeks where I've thought "OK, is the US toast now??", and the thing that finally did it for me was Trump's prominent post "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law." Trump announced the rule of law is dead and there has been basically no pushback . I mean, sure, it may have just been bluster, but the Republicans used to put the idea of the Constitution on a…

The whole issue with the idea that "Trump is destroying democracy," isn't that what Trump is doing is NOT damaging to democracy, or corrupt, or what have you. It is. But Trump will be gone in 4 years. There will be a new Republican nominee. Whatever (and I mean, whatever) that nominee says will be the new party line. And the idea that the Republicans are willing to continue an actual overthrow of law and order in the US is...close to a fantasy. The Republicans are with Trump as long as he is the most popular candidate. As soon as he is no longer useful in that function, he's toast.

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Post by throaway89 »

zimpenfish wrote: post #367
rayiner wrote: post #327

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The US is far less dependent on trade than the average country. We could close our borders to the world entirely and be fine after an initial discomfort. And nobody has has seen America as the “good guy” in my lifetime. We’re the country that destabilizes Latin American and Asian countries, bombs the Middle East, etc. I used to think there was at least a logic to all that, but it turns out our elites were just ideolo…

> We could close our borders to the world entirely and be fine after an initial discomfort. I'm no economist but a trade deficit in the hundreds of billions[0] suggests otherwise. [0] Wikipedia says 773B for 2023.

There'a a whole generation of Canadians who won't send a single dollar anywhere near the US thanks to Trump. I don't think we'll ever forget this.
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