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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by WickyNilliams »

erwincoumans wrote: post #404
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #198

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The Switch is genuinely one of the last pieces of hardware I was really excited about, and I can't say that about much anymore. It's extremely well put together, I've repaired mine a number of times with no issues (honestly opening anything made in Japan is a joy, the engineering is so good) and the specs leave a lot to be desired, which is unfortunate, but at the same time, you wouldn't know it while using it. The X…

Except for the drifting joycons problems. We had to replace many. Hope Switch2 fixes that drift.

You can get free replacements btw. My original switch from release finally got drift in the latter part of last year. Nintendo had replacements to me within a few days at no cost. Rare to have such a pleasant experience with customer support, it was a flawless process

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by slothtrop »

I've skipped a few Nintendo console generations, but may grab this one. Right off the hop I can catch up with a decent library. The draw is it would be nice for the kids.

Part of me was hoping it would be something more visionary, but maybe it's just not the right time. I noticed that competition is similarly betting on handheld devices.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by kemayo »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #493
_fat_santa wrote: post #401

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The Switch was the first device where i saw how well the mobile + docked system worked and it was my favorite device until I got a Steam Deck. The Deck is killer IMO because it takes the same form factor of the Switch, gives you more power and no restrictions on games.

From a usability perspective, the Steam Deck is pretty good but the Switch blows it out of the water. Fast boot times, you don't need to restart it all the time, games don't crash frequently, controllers just work, it just slots into its dock, a much simpler UI, and no need to futz around with Proton. The Steam Deck is cool but I waste infinitely more time dicking around with it than the Switch, where it just works.…

Did you turn on beta OS updates? Because in my experience I have to restart it about every three months when Valve releases an OS update -- but when I had betas turned on, that was every few days instead. (Might also explain some stability issues for you.)

Also: I've seen one crash in the whole time I've owned one, the controllers work perfectly, and I don't think I've ever had to meddle with Proton in any way.

Dock cable going in on the top is a bit fiddly, though, I'll grant you.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by BrawnyBadger53 »

Natsu wrote: post #704
nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

> Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. I sort of feel like they were trying to fight emulation with a lot of their moves, doing things that were challenging to emulate, like the 3D stuff, or unusual hardware, etc.

Unfortunately for them, they are subject to the most interest from emulation devs by far.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by kemayo »

prmoustache wrote: post #698
_fat_santa wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Switch was the first device where i saw how well the mobile + docked system worked and it was my favorite device until I got a Steam Deck. The Deck is killer IMO because it takes the same form factor of the Switch, gives you more power and no restrictions on games.

Isn't the Steam Deck too bulky to be used comfortably on your sofa for more than a few minutes? I already think that switch 2 seems too big. I'd wish the regular switch was the size of the lite already.

Personally I find it fine. It's a lot bigger than the Switch, but the grips make it more comfortable to hold overall.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by astrange »

reshlo wrote: post #600
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #504

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> Microsoft of course couldn't compete with an "Xbox 2" vs a "PS3" Part of me wants to think that consumers can't possibly that uninformed, but I know in my heart I am wrong. They should have done what Nintendo (usually) does and left the numbers out of it. Call the next iteration of the Xbox the box.

A&W tried to make a 1/3 pound burger to compete with the McDonald’s Quarter Pounder but it failed because people thought it was smaller, because 3 is smaller than 4. https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fr...

The last time I was in Canada they were selling something inexplicably named the "Teen Burger".

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Nifty3929 »

parsimo2010 wrote: post #432
joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

For the last few generations (since the Wii), you don't buy a Nintendo for the processing power. They haven't competed on processing power since the Gamecube. After the Gamecube generation, you bought a Nintendo for the exclusive games and that was it. Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, and others. Nintendo knows that their draw is just the games, and uses a lot of lawyers to make sure that normal gamers can't play those games o…

I am willing to pay $300 for the privilege of paying $60 each for their games. No joke.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by CM30 »

Honestly, they did exactly what they should have done here. Made a more powerful Switch with better hardware and backwards compatibility, with a clear and easily understandable name.

Regardless, the things they need to update/fix are all really just technical and UI design problems; Joy-Cons drifting and rails failing to work, Switch Online being a laggy mess for many games, the eShop being near impossible to filter or find things in, etc. If they can get those things fixed, and get some popular Nintendo franchises out within the first year or so, then this could be a huge success.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by saghm »

dietr1ch wrote: post #588
joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

Nintendo does not compete on specs. They rely on the fact that fun is pretty much orthogonal to bleeding edge graphics. They use that awareness and take advantage of simpler graphics to trade off processing power for features (portability, novelty) and profit (60>=usd games). From time to time they also remind us that little hardware can do a lot if it's not running Chrome on a trench coat, and instead care is put in…

This is a pretty important point, and one that I'm mystified that a lot of people seem not to agree with. It doesn't matter if you're playing on a glorified smartphone with thumbsticks if the game is good enough. Moreover, having a selling point of state-of-the-art graphics today will turn into a _disadvantage_ in 5-10 years when newer games look even better; something designed to look good today with "lower quality" graphics is going to hold up better because it already is being compared to stuff taking advantage of every ounce of the latest save greatest hardware.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by stiltzkin »

joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

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