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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by simoncion »

ziddoap wrote: post #288
warkdarrior wrote: post #256

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Well, what is a company supposed to do if local candidates do not want RTO? It seems logical to hire workers who are OK with RTO, especially if they are outside of the country and clearly willing to relocate for RTO.

> Well, what is a company supposed to do if local candidates do not want RTO? Well one option, of course, would be not forcing staff to return to office.

Perhaps while also noticing both the record profits made over the past four years, as well as the fact that many of those working from their home office have had nothing but glowing performance reviews over those past four years...

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by nopcode »

blululu wrote: post #444
FL33TW00D wrote: post #208

Surprised by all the negativity here. The USA benefits enormously from skilled immigration: "doubling the size of the US H1B visa program increases US and EU growth by 4% in the long-run" From a recent paper here: https://academic.oup.com/qje/advance-article-abstract/doi/10...

There were >100000 layoffs at tech companies in the last 4 years because companies “overhired”. The government is finally taking action to address a “labor shortage” in this sector, because these same companies cannot find anyone to hire? Something doesn’t add up here but a lot of people who have been given a pretty raw deal.

How is it possible that the labour force suddenly produced all those tech workers domestically during a pandemic?

What's not adding up is the qualifications of those people that got overhired.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by simoncion »

hx8 wrote: post #635
tokioyoyo wrote: post #324

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It’s a slowdown in tech recruitment, so it is fair for citizens to think for themselves first. There are quite a lot of candidates that can fulfill most of the roles, and it has bad optics when the government tries to prioritize others. Disclaimer: I don’t live in the states, but I can understand the frustration.

Tech isn't a zero sum game, it's a growth market. If some H-1B talent helps grow a company faster, then they can increase their own citizen employee count faster.

> ...it's a growth market.

Not when it's in fashion to perform large traditional layoffs and "stealth" layoffs via RTO mandates and other unpleasantness.

Maybe things will substantially change within a year or two, but I'm skeptical.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by dijit »

Ardren wrote: post #764
0086b416f103 wrote: post #454

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> We cannot find qualified applicants. Your company is incompetent. I've applied to hundreds of companies like yours within Huntsville, AL in the past year, rejected or ghosted all the time. Defense morons will talk about how hard their work is and how they can't find anyone to do it. Completely skip over how prevalent affirmative action is in their hiring process; who were you guys interviewing in 2020? Why is the d…

Wow, I can't imagine why companies don't want to hire you

its perfectly acceptable to be bitter and express it sometimes when you have the perception that life has been unfair to you for half a decade.

It doesn’t necessarily speak to the parent’s attitude before becoming bitter. Hard to draw such a direct conclusion for me.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by UltraSane »

Ardren wrote: post #764
0086b416f103 wrote: post #454

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> We cannot find qualified applicants. Your company is incompetent. I've applied to hundreds of companies like yours within Huntsville, AL in the past year, rejected or ghosted all the time. Defense morons will talk about how hard their work is and how they can't find anyone to do it. Completely skip over how prevalent affirmative action is in their hiring process; who were you guys interviewing in 2020? Why is the d…

Wow, I can't imagine why companies don't want to hire you

Becoming deeply bitter is a very normal outcome of dealing with US company hiring processes in 2024

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

ziddoap wrote: post #19

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/18/2024-29... The tweet is a super brief summary, reproduced below. Founders can self petition (& spouses can work) - Own >50% of the entity, or have majority voting rights Roles tied to research institutions cap-exempt - Organizations where fundamental research is a key activity now qualify - Startups can hire researchers (AI, health, hardware) year-round Students ge…

I wonder if it is possible to found a US company and open a bank account for it while being a resident of Russian Federation, and then self-petition yourself for a visa....

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by ponow »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

Define competence. What fraction of graduates in EE and CS from top 50 schools would you regard as competent?

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by simoncion »

simoncion wrote: post #784
biztos wrote: post #535

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Not to pile on, but if linear algebra is really a part of the day-to-day job and not some manager’s mistaken idea of a proxy for more general talent, then you’re hiring specialists and the pool will not be that large. People who remember all their math and enjoy it and can also code, are also very employable at all the AI companies and departments, including at Meta. And how do you know if someone’s eligible for secu…

> And how do you know if someone’s eligible for security clearance without applying for it? The short answer is "You can't, not with 100% certainty.". Based on my experience from decades ago, the long answer is "Anyone who's a US citizen and doesn't lie about their drug use and debts can get a Secret clearance.". Things MIGHT have significantly changed since my clearance lapsed way back when, but I doubt it.

Actually, after engaging my brain a bit more fully, I realize that one can be eligible for a security clearance but fail to actually be granted one.

That is, eligibility concerns whether or not the State Department will consider your application, not whether or not they will grant the clearance after performing their background and lifestyle investigation.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by Tyr42 »

klodolph wrote: post #630
fn-mote wrote: post #600

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> if linear algebra is really a part of the day-to-day job [...] then you’re hiring specialists It kind of bothers me that the parent and other readers here are passing off knowing linear algebra as some kind of esoteric skill. Linear algebra is a year 2 course in a undergraduate eduation. There are polished libraries to make it fast. Unless you mean enough knowledge to be writing linear algebra libraries , there is…

> Linear algebra is a year 2 course in a undergraduate eduation. From what I’ve seen, the year 2 course is great for graphics programming, game development, that sort of thing. It’s not enough for the tasks that require more serious linear algebra, when you’re working with systems of linear equations, large matrices, etc. These “big” linear algebra problems come up a lot in fields like physics simulation, finance, an…

Can't take graphics until you have finished linear algebra, otherwise how would you deal with all the rotation and projection matrices?
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