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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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I wonder if OpenAI can break into enterprise. I don’t see much of a path for them, at least here in the EU. Even if they do manage to build some sort of trust as far as data safety goes, and I’m not sure they’ll have much more luck with that than Facebook had trying to sell that corporate thing they did (still do?). But if they did, they will still be facing the very real issue of having to compete with Microsoft. I…

Man, if they can solve that "trust" problem, OpenAI could really have an big advantage. Imagine if they were nonprofit, open source, documented all of the data that their training was being done with, or published all of their boardroom documents. That'd be a real distinguishing advantage. Somebody should start an organization like that.

The cyber security gatekeepers care very little about that kind of stuff. They care only about what does not get them in trouble, and AI in many enterprises is still viewed as a cyber threat.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Let’s see if those folks saying they’ve doubled their productivity will pay.

LLMs have significantly increased my productivity, but in this case it'd be about the increase in productivity over the existing Pro plan. I mainly use them for generating or improving code, learning about things, and running estimates.

How much better will this be for my uses? Based on my experience with o1, the answer is "fairly marginal". To me, o1 is worse than the regular model or Claude on most things, but it's best for something non-numeric that requires deep thought or new insights. I'm sure there are some people who got a huge productivity boost from o1. This plan is for those people.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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I am using more Claude.ai these days, but the limitations for paying accounts do apply to ChatGPT as well. I find it a terrible business practice to be completely opaque and vague about limits. Even worse, the limits seem to be dynamic and change all the time. I understand that there is a lot of usage happening, but most likely it means that the $20 per month is too cheap anyway, if an average user like myself can so…

> I find it a terrible business practice to be completely opaque and vague about limits. Even worse, the limits seem to be dynamic and change all the time. Here are some things I've noticed about this, at least in the "free" tier web models since that's all I typically need. * ChatGPT has never denied a response but I notice the output slows down during increased demand. I'd rather have a good quality response that t…

I believe the "1/20" indicator on Copilot was added back when it was unhinged to try to prevent users from getting it to act up, and it has been removed in the latest redesign

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

When talking about context windows I'm surprised no one mentions https://poe.com/. Switched over from ChatGPT about a year ago, and it's amazing. Can use all models and the full context window of them, for the same price as a ChatGPT subscription.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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post #572

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if OpenAI can break into enterprise. I don’t see much of a path for them, at least here in the EU. Even if they do manage to build some sort of trust as far as data safety goes, and I’m not sure they’ll have much more luck with that than Facebook had trying to sell that corporate thing they did (still do?). But if they did, they will still be facing the very real issue of having to compete with Microsoft. I…

Teams winning on price instead of quality is very telling of the state of business. Your #1/#2 communication tool being regarded as a cost to be saved upon.

Name a strictly better corporate communication tool than Teams

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

One of the main issues that enterprise AI has is the data in large corporations. It's typically a nightmare of fiefdoms and filesystems. I'm sure that a lot of companies would love to use AI more, both internally and commercially. But first they'd have to wrangle their own systems so that OpenAI can ingest the data at all.

Unfortunately, those are 5+ year projects for a lot of F500 companies. And they'll have to burn a lot of political capital to get the internal systems under control. Meaning that the CXO that does get the SQL server up and running and has the clout to do something about non-compliance, that person is going to be hated internally. And then if it's ever finished? That whole team is gonna be let go too. And it'll all just then rot, if not implode.

The AI boom for corporations is really going to let people know who is swimming naked when it comes to internal data orderliness.

Like, you want to be the person that sell shovels in the AI boom here for enterprise? Be the 'Cleaning Lady' for company data and non-compliance. Go in, kick butts, clean it all up, be hated, leave with a fat check.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

When talking about context windows I'm surprised no one mentions https://poe.com/ . Switched over from ChatGPT about a year ago, and it's amazing. Can use all models and the full context window of them, for the same price as a ChatGPT subscription.

Poe.com goes straight to login page, doesn't want to divulge ANY information to me before I sign up. No About Us or Product description or Pricing - nothing. Strange behavior. But seeing it more and more with modern web sites.
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