Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

Post by AmazingTurtle » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 1:32 PM UTC

Post by malcolmgreaves » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 1:34 PM UTC

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> Humans are machines Even if we accept the premise (seeing humans as machines is literally dehumanising and a favourite argument of those who exploit them), not all machines are created equal. Would you use a bicycle to fill your taxes? > Somehow, we got to the moon Quite hand wavey. We didn’t get to the Moon by reading a bunch of text from the era then probabilistically joining word fragments, passing that around t…

LLMs are a lot better at a lot of things than a lot of humans. We got to the moon using a large number of systems to a) avoid errors where possible and b) build in redundancies. Even an LLM knows this and knew what the statement meant: https://chatgpt.com/share/6722e04f-0230-8002-8345-5d2eba2e7d... Putting "corrected" in quotes and saying "death spiral" implies error compounding. https://chatgpt.com/share/6722e19c-7f…

Post by rty32 » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 1:42 PM UTC

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I'm sorry but I don't understand how people say LLMs are simply "tab completion". They allow me to do much more than that thanks to all the knowledge they contain. For instance, yesterday I wanted to write a tool that transfers any large file that is still being appended to to multiple remote hosts, with a fast throughput. By asking Claude for help I obtained exactly what I want in under two hours. I'm no C/C++ exper…

That's fine for your quick hack that is probably a reimplementation of an existing program you can't find. But it's not a production quality implementation of new need.

Post by rty32 » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 1:47 PM UTC

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I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

A few years ago we called that IntelliSense, right? I remember many years ago as a Java developer, Netbeans could do such things as complete `psvm` to "public static void main() {...}", or if you had a field "private String name;" you could press some key combination and it would generate you the getter and setter, complete with javadoc which was mandatory at that place because apparently you need "Returns the name.\…

Post by protomolecule » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 1:53 PM UTC

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Not hours; but days instead of months: porting around 30k lines of legacy livescript project to typescript. Most of the work is in tweaking a prompt for Claude (using Aider) so the porting process is done correctly.

Thankfully it seems like AI is best at automating the most tedious and arguably most useless endeavor in software engineering- rewriting perfectly good code in whatever the language du jour is.