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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by ramses0 »

dredmorbius wrote: post #599
rdtsc wrote: post #144

The only way we'd find out how they did it is if some pagers didn't explode and at least one would get into the hands of someone willing to do a public tear-down. In this video, we'll be cutting the explosive battery. Hit the like and subscribe buttons, and let us know what kind of explosive you think this is in the comments. Also, don't try this at home kids, we're what you'd call "professionals".

Listening to BBC News headlines earlier today, this seems to be exactly what's occurring. Multiple devices did not explode, and are being investigated by multiple parties. I cannot find a specific story detailing this presently. There's some discussion of the mechanics of the modifications in this TEMPCO story, though how the information was ascertained isn't clear: [S]enior Lebanese source said the devices had been…

Next level "exploding capacitors" ... :-/

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by rtsil »

echoangle wrote: post #717
anigbrowl wrote: post #680

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It's really quite bizarre how official history sources unironically talk about a 'terrorist boat' inflicting a surprise attack on a 'destroyer'. https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/uss-cole-bombing

I’m not too familiar with the story but the lead sentence is “On October 12, 2000, two suicide pilots of a small bomb-laden boat pulled alongside of the USS Cole at midship, offered friendly gestures to several crew members, and detonated their explosives.”. Could this possibly fall under Article 37 c of the Geneva convention (“The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status”)? In that case, calling it terrorism would…

But that would mean any attacks made by or involving spies are terrorism.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by gryzzly »

lupusreal wrote: post #782
gryzzly wrote: post #768

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You should read up about the difference between Muslims and Islamists and how bad the Islamists are for Islamic communities themselves.

Let me guess, the ones you term to be "Islamists" are those who fight America or Israel. Most of the Afghan fighters who took shots at American soldiers weren't motivated by some sort of boogieman religious extremism. They were simply shooting at armed foreigners who invaded their country. They weren't terrorists by any reasonable definition of the but were called so anyway because they happened to be Muslim and dare…

I term Islamists the ones who claim themselves to be Islamists – Islamist Republic of Iran, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas. It shows you have no idea what are you talking about.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by gryzzly »

lupusreal wrote: post #782
gryzzly wrote: post #768

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should read up about the difference between Muslims and Islamists and how bad the Islamists are for Islamic communities themselves.

Let me guess, the ones you term to be "Islamists" are those who fight America or Israel. Most of the Afghan fighters who took shots at American soldiers weren't motivated by some sort of boogieman religious extremism. They were simply shooting at armed foreigners who invaded their country. They weren't terrorists by any reasonable definition of the but were called so anyway because they happened to be Muslim and dare…

and supporting the narrative pushed by the Islamists is harming the Muslims, resulting in Islamophobia. The fact you are mixing the two terms to simply "mark these who attack America" is actually really bad for the normal people affiliated with Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Islamism

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Post by mandmandam »

minkles wrote: post #554
runarberg wrote: post #542

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No, it wouldn't. An interpretation of an ideology is not a race and conflating the two is disingenuous.

Discriminating against a group of people on the basis of their religion can still be racist.

There's legal precedent for that in the US, Canada, the UK, France, the European Council on Human Rights, etc... Not Saudi Arabia though. Are you Saudi?

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by IOT_Apprentice »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #278
Arch485 wrote: post #192

I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

I think it should not be considered terrorism to the extent that the attack targeted legitimate military targets during a time of war — broadly speaking, combatants and other parts of the organization that affect its ability to wage war. Terrorism, at least least in my view, is an attack that either intentionally targets civilians or is truly indiscriminate, and is aimed at producing political cha age by causing fear…

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Post by IOT_Apprentice »

edanm wrote: post #543
113 wrote: post #526

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> legitimate military targets during a time of war Israel and Lebanon are not at war.

But Israel and Hezbollah are at war, and these are (reportedly) devices used by Hezbollah operatives. A war Hezbollah declared, btw.

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Post by EasyMark »

IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #798
pdabbadabba wrote: post #278

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I think it should not be considered terrorism to the extent that the attack targeted legitimate military targets during a time of war — broadly speaking, combatants and other parts of the organization that affect its ability to wage war. Terrorism, at least least in my view, is an attack that either intentionally targets civilians or is truly indiscriminate, and is aimed at producing political cha age by causing fear…

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But there are always innocent bystanders killed in war? They are directly targeting Hezbollah members. It sounds like that might not be the case with these radios though, it seems like a much weaker case than with the pagers.
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