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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by 0x457 »

bloopernova wrote: post #758
noduerme wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

Is there such a thing as a tablet that accepts video input ? In other words, use it as a tablet, then connect a mini hdmi or whatever and it turns into a monitor. Disconnect, and it's a tablet again.

I use a hdmi capture dongle with iPad to turn it into a monitor. Not quite what you want, but as an option.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by enkay »

alemanek wrote: post #303
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

If I could use this as an external monitor plugged into my MacBook I would have bought one on the spot.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by doctorpangloss »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

You should probably eliminate the "blue light free" claim. Per results on clinicaltrials.gov, blue light conclusively does not impact sleep outcomes.

This is complex for a layperson to investigate, but you have to search for insomnia, sleep disorders, wakefulness during the day, and only studies with results. There are many uncompleted studies - it is typical for studies that have no chance of producing an interesting outcome are dropped by their investigators even when registered. However, those uncompleted studies produce many conflating results.

For example, https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT02698800?tab=results specifically investigated using blue light blocking lenses compared to clear lenses. This was not blinded. The differences in all their measures were within 1 standard deviation between the groups, so the result is conclusive that (1) insomnia scores vary very widely among people as a baseline (2) if there is a real effect, it is pretty small and would require a larger sample size to measure. Of course when they measure the part where you don't know if you're looking at blue light, like when you are actually asleep, there is no difference between groups.

This is just to say that the whole blue light thing - placebo effects are real. People perceive this blue light thing as real, particularly tech people. Seed.com is successful. You can do placebos. But you should do the right thing and cut weird claims with no real evidence that are really small brained.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by cyberax »

davisr wrote: post #464
cyberax wrote: post #450

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One problem with reMarkable tablet that I have, is that the stylus' head is not quite completely immovable. It's a bit loose. Does the stylus for Daylight have the same issue?

It's not supposed to be immovable. The nibs are made of felt, and if they didn't rotate they would wear unevenly and therefore the stylus would give erroneous pressure readings.

I don't mind manually rotating them. But the loose fit makes it hard to do precise calligraphy.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by CrazyStat »

noduerme wrote: post #428
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

There are e-ink monitors, e.g. [1]. I’ve never used one so I can’t speak to how well they work.

[1] https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-curved-e-ink-mo...

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by 1shooner »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #565

All the best to you! Just one little thing: I think you're killing your conversions. The website is janky even on my M1 Macbook Air. Not sure the scroll hijacking stuff is really needed to get your point across either. (Check it yourself https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis?url=daylightcomputer.com )

I just didn't think there was anything else on the page when scrolling didn't scroll.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by chfalck »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #793
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

You should probably eliminate the "blue light free" claim. Per results on clinicaltrials.gov, blue light conclusively does not impact sleep outcomes. This is complex for a layperson to investigate, but you have to search for insomnia, sleep disorders, wakefulness during the day, and only studies with results. There are many uncompleted studies - it is typical for studies that have no chance of producing an interestin…

Only 15 people enrolled in the cited study

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by nfriedly »

bloopernova wrote: post #758
noduerme wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

Is there such a thing as a tablet that accepts video input ? In other words, use it as a tablet, then connect a mini hdmi or whatever and it turns into a monitor. Disconnect, and it's a tablet again.

The minisforum v3 is a windows tablet that can also act like a monitor - https://www.minisforum.com/page/v3/index.html?lang=en

And, I think the lenovo yoga tab 13 is an Android tablet with a similar feature: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/tablets/android-tablets/lenov...

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