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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by jjgreen »

surfingdino wrote: post #726
beefnugs wrote: post #672

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the whole technology is based on fucking over artists, who didn't expect this exact thing?

It's not just the artists, anything you do in the digital realm and anything that can be digitised is fair game. In the UK NHS GP practices refuse to register you to see a doctor even when it's urgent and tell you to use a third-party app to book an appointment. You have use your phone to take photos of the affected area and provide a personal info. I fully expect that data to be fed into some AI and sold without me…

App? What's an app?

It's a thing you put on your phone

I don't have a phone

Well, we can't register you

You don't accept people who don't have phones? Could I have that in writing please, ..., oh, your signature on that please ...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by sooheon »

stavros wrote: post #111

This is the first I've heard of this, but I've used the "Sky" voice extensively and never once thought it sounded like Johansson. Has anyone else noticed a similarity? To me they sound pretty different, Johansson's voice is much more raspy.

Yes, I feel gaslit by the whole situation

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by meat_machine »

akudha wrote: post #790
windexh8er wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

What is so special about her voice? They could’ve found a college student with a sweet voice and offered to pay her tuition in exchange for using her voice, no? Or a voice actor? Why be cartoonishly stupid and cartoonishly arsehole and steal a celebrity’s voice? Did he think Scarlett won’t find out? Or object? I don’t understand these rich people. Is it their hobby to be a dick to as many people as they can, for no r…

Scarlett voiced Samantha, an AI in the movie "Her"

Considering the movie's 11 years old, it's surprisingly on-point with depictions of AI/human interactions, relations, and societal acceptance. It does get a bit speculative and imaginative at the end though...

But I imagine that movie did/does spark the imagination of many people, and I guess Sam just couldn't let it go.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by stavros »

sooheon wrote: post #792
stavros wrote: post #111

This is the first I've heard of this, but I've used the "Sky" voice extensively and never once thought it sounded like Johansson. Has anyone else noticed a similarity? To me they sound pretty different, Johansson's voice is much more raspy.

Yes, I feel gaslit by the whole situation

Yeah, very odd. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love Johansson's voice on the thing, but Sky is not it.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by xinayder »

windexh8er wrote: post #497
nickthegreek wrote: post #102

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This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

> The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story.

Correcting, the thing about this whole situation with OpenAI is they are willing to steal everything for use in ChatGPT. They trained their model with copyrighted data and for some reason they won't delete the millions of protected data they used to train the AI model.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by ben_w »

lawn wrote: post #722
ben_w wrote: post #705

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Much as I dislike crypto, that's more of "having no sense of other people's privacy" (and hubris) than general scamminess. It's a Musk-error not an SBF-error. (Of course, I do realise many will say all three are the same, but I think it's worth separating the types of mistakes everyone makes, because everyone makes mistakes, and only two of these three also did useful things).

It's not just about privacy either. Worldcoin is centrally controlled making it a classic "scam coin". Decentralization is the _only_ unique thing about cryptocurrencies, when you abandon decentralization all that's left is general scamminess. (Yes, there's nuance to decentralization too but that's not what's going on with Worldcoin.)

True decentralisation is part of the problem with cryptocurrencies and why they can't work the way the advocates want them to.

Decentralisation allows trust-less assurance that money is sent, it's just that's not useful because the goods or services for which the money is transferred still need either trust or a centralised system that can undo the transaction because fraud happened.

That's where smart contracts come in, which I also think are a terrible idea, but do at least deserve a "you tried!" badge, because they're as dumb as saying "I will write bug-free code" rather than as dumb as "let's build a Dyson swarm to mine exactly the same amount of cryptocurrency as we would have if we did nothing".

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by sooheon »

mycologos wrote: post #549
lotsoweiners wrote: post #352

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Sam Altman has a smarmy, borderline vomit inducing face. The fact that I have to see his face every day while scrolling through the interwebs feeds has made my life worse.

See, I don't like Sam Altman either, but this habit of criticizing people for their faces seems wrong-headed. Isn't it his behavior that we should be criticizing?

I could be wrong but in these cases (or when people criticize voices, similarly), people are more put off by expressions than raw features. Nonverbal communication is high emotional bandwidth. I don’t begrudge someone disliking someone else’s self presentation.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by chx »

windexh8er wrote: post #497
nickthegreek wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

Altman is a known conman. Surely you are aware of Yishan Wong describing how Sam Altman and the Reddit founders conned Conde Nast https://reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_bes...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by romwell »

moralestapia wrote: post #326
romwell wrote: post #271

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>Is there a distinction? Yes, that would be a copyright violation on top of everything else. Great idea though! I'm going to start selling Keanu Reeves T-Shirts using this little trick. See, I'm not using Keanu's likeness if I don't label it as Keanu. I'm just going to write Neo in a Tweet, and then say I'm just cloning Neo 's likeness. Neo is not a real person, so Keanu can't sue me! Bwahahaha

If you find a guy that looks identical to him, however ...

>If you find a guy that looks identical to him, however ...

...it wouldn't make any difference.

A Barack Obama figurine is a Barack Obama figurine, no matter how much you say that it's actually a figurine of Boback O'Rama, a random person that coincidentally looks identically to the former US President.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by kashyapc »

Altman often uses tactical charisma to trap gullible people, government entities, and any unsuspecting powerful person for his ends. He will not bat an eyelid to take whatever unethical route if that gives him "moat". He relentlessly talks as if "near-term AGI" is straining to get out of the bottle in his ClosedAI basement. He will tell you with great concern about how "nervous" or "scared" (he said this to the US Congress[1]) of what he thinks his newest LLM model is gonna let loose on humanity.

So he's here to help regulate it all with an "international agency" (see the reference[2] by windexh8er in this thread)! Don't forget that Altman is the same hack who came up with "Worldcoin" and the so-called "Orb" that'll scan your eyeballs for "proof of personhood".

Is this sleazy marketer the one to be trusted to lead an effort that has a lasting impact on humanity? Hell no.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312294

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40423483

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