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New flagship... This is becoming to look like a smartphone world, and Sam Altman is a Steve Jobs of this stuff. At some point tech will reach saturation and every next model will be just 10% faster, 2% less hallucination, more megapixels for images etc :)

Doubtful. Apple can get away with tiny iterations on smartphones because they have the brand and they know people will always buy their latest product. LLMs aren't physical products so there is no cost to switching other than increased API cost, meaning openAI won't be able to recoup the cost of training a new model unless the model is sufficiently different that it justifies people paying significantly more for.

The special thing about GPT-4o is the multimodal capabilities, all the metrics suggest that it is the same size language model roughly as GPT-4. The fact it's available for free also points to it not being the most intelligent model that openAI has atm.

The time to evaluate whether we're starting to level off is when they've trained a model 10x larger than gpt-4 and we don't see significant change.

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#792

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

> We’re moving toward a world where every job will be modeled After an OpenAI launch, I think it's important to take one's feelings about the future impact of the technology with a HUGE grain of salt. OpenAI are masters of hype. They have been generating hype for years now, yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far. Do you remember when they teased GPT-2 as "too dangerous" for public access? I do. Yet we now ha…

> yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far

Go ask any teacher or graphician.

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#793

The similiarity between this model and the movie 'Her' [0] creeps me out so badly that I can't shake the feeling that our social interactions are on the brink of doom. [0] https://youtu.be/GV01B5kVsC0?feature=shared&t=85

it is so similar! almost it is inspired by "Her"

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post #777

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

Why so much positivity? It can also murder people, and it will continue being used for that. That's scary.

(IMO) AI cannot murder people. The responsibility of what an AI does falls on the person who deployed it, and to a lesser extent the person who created it. If someone is killed by a fully autonomous weapon then that person has been murdered by the person or people who created and enabled the AI, not the AI itself.

This is no different to saying a person with a gun murdered someone rather than attributing the murder to the gun. An AI gun is just a really fancy gun.

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#795
Such an impressive demo... but why did they have to give it this vapid, giggly socialite persona that makes me want to switch it off after thirty seconds?

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post #637
post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

> I noticed that the AI in the demo seems to be very rambly That's been a major issue for me with LLMs this whole time. They can't just give me an answer, they have to spout a whole preamble that usually includes spitting my query back at me and trying to impress me with how many words it's saying, like it's a requirement. You can tell it e.g. "don't give me anything other than the list" but it's annoying to have to…

Someone suggested writing "Be concise in your answers. Excessive politeness is physically painful to me." in ChatGPT's custom instructions, and so far I've liked the results. I mean, I haven't done A/B testing, but I haven't had a problem with excessive verbosity every since I set that custom prompt.

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#797

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

> We’re moving toward a world where every job will be modeled After an OpenAI launch, I think it's important to take one's feelings about the future impact of the technology with a HUGE grain of salt. OpenAI are masters of hype. They have been generating hype for years now, yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far. Do you remember when they teased GPT-2 as "too dangerous" for public access? I do. Yet we now ha…

> Do you remember when they teased GPT-2 as "too dangerous" for public access? I do.

Maybe not GPT-2, but in general LLMs and other generative AI types aren't without their downsides.

From companies looking to downsize their staff to replace them with software, to the work of artists/writers being devalued somewhat, to even easier scams and something like the rise of AI girlfriends, which has also gotten some critique, some of those can probably be a net negative.

Even when it's not pearl clutching over the advancements in technology and the social changes that arise, I do wonder how much my own development work will be devalued due to the somewhat lowered entry barrier into the industry and people looking for quick cash, same as with boot camps leading to more saturation. Probably not my position individually (not exactly entry level), but the market as a whole.

It's kind of at a point where I use LLMs for dev work not to fall behind, cause the productivity gains for simple problems and boilerplate are hard to argue with.

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post #777

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

Why so much positivity? It can also murder people, and it will continue being used for that. That's scary.

So can knives

Re: GPT-4o

#799
post #795

Such an impressive demo... but why did they have to give it this vapid, giggly socialite persona that makes me want to switch it off after thirty seconds?

You should be able to adjust this with a system prompt, given that has end-to-end speech capabilities now

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#800

Now that I see this, here is my wish (I know there are security privacy concerns but let's pretend there are not there for this wish): An app that runs on my desktop and has access to my screen(s) when I work. At any time I can ask it something about what's on the screen, it can jump in and let me know if it thinks I made a mistake (think pair programming) or a suggestion (drafting a document). It can also quickly ta…

This basically already exists and the companies that sell this are constantly improving it. For better or worse.

“You haven’t done anything productive for 15 minutes. Are you taking an unauthorized break?”
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