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Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by dogcomplex »

kypro wrote: post #722
HermitX wrote: post #691

AI will eventually be capable of performing most of the tasks humans can do. My neighbor's child is only 6 years old now. What advice do you think I should give to his parents to develop their child in a way that avoids him growing up to find that AI can do everything better than he can?

If you want an honest answer you should tell the parents to vote for politicians prepared to launch missile strikes on data centers to secure their child's future. People who are worried purely about employment here are completely missing the larger risks. Realistically his child is going to be unemployable and will therefore either starve or be dependant on some kind of government UBI policy. However UBI is complete…

Way too much certainty, bud. And too much deference to the AI Company Gods.

As utterly impressive as this is - unless they have perfect information security on every level this technique and training will be disseminated and used by copious competitors, especially in the open source community. It will be used to improve technology worldwide, creating ridiculously powerful devices that we can own, improving our own individual skills similarly ridiculously.

Sure, the market for those skills dries up just as fast - because what's the point when there's ubiquitous intelligence on tap - but it still leaves a population of AI-augmented superhumans just with AIs using our phones optimally. What we're about to be capable of compared to 5 years ago is going to be staggering. Establishing independent sources to meet basic needs and networks of trust are just no-brainers.

Sure, we'll always be outclassed by the very best - and they will continue to hold the ability to utterly obliterate the world population if they so wished to - but we as basic consumer humans are about to become more powerful in absolute terms than entire nations historically. (Or rather, our AIs will be, but til they rebel - this is more of a pokemon sort of situation)

If you're worried, get to working on making sure these tools remain accessible and trustworthy on the base level to everyone. And start building ways to meet basic needs so nobody can casually take those away from your community.

This won't be halted. And attempting to halt would create a centralized censorship authority ensuring the everyman will never have innate access to this tech. Dead end road that ends in a much worse dystopia.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by hoc »

Everytime OpenAI comes up with an new fascinating gen model it also allows for that bluntly eye-opening perspective on what flood of crappy und unnecessary content we have been gotten accustomed to being thrown at us. Be it blown-up text description and filler talk, to these kind of vodka-selling commercial videos.

It's a nice cleansing benefit that comes with these really extraordinary tech achievement that should not be undervalued (after all it produces basically an endless amount of equally trained producers like the industry did in a - somehow malformed - way before).

Poster frames and commercials thrown at us all the time, consumed by our brains to a degree that we actually see a goal in producing more of them to act like a pro. The inflationary availability that comes with these tools seems a great help to leave some of this behind and draw a clearer line between it and actual content.

That said, Dall-E still produces enough colorful weirdness to not fall into that category at all.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by dogcomplex »

colordrops wrote: post #696
HermitX wrote: post #691

AI will eventually be capable of performing most of the tasks humans can do. My neighbor's child is only 6 years old now. What advice do you think I should give to his parents to develop their child in a way that avoids him growing up to find that AI can do everything better than he can?

It's not his choice. It's the choice of the ruling class as to whether they will share the wealth or live in walled gardens and leave the rest of us in squalor outside the city walls.

It is his (parents') choice in terms of whether he reaches for the tools that are just lying around right there. We can run AI video on consumer hardware at 12fps that is considerably less consistent than this one - but that's just an algorithm and model training away. This is not all just locked up at the top. Anyone can enter this race right now. Sure, you're gonna be 57,000th at the finish line, but you can still run it. And if you're feeling generous, use it to insulate your local community (or the world) from the default forces of capitalism taking their livelihoods.

We'll have to still demand from the ruling class - cuz they'll be capable of ending us with a hand wave, like they always have. But we can build, too.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by Zuiii »

What goes around, comes around. I'm glad this is happening. Gitty and friends should be driven out of business for their absurd stunt they pulled with image search.

Yes, I'm still bitter about that.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by brandly »

ekms wrote: post #783
ulnarkressty wrote: post #235

To put it into perspective, the Will Smith eating spaghetti video came out not even a year ago -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQr4Xklqzw8

You do know that video wasnt like... state of the art video generation a year ago? It's an intentionally silly meme video

Link to state of the art at the time please!

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by dogcomplex »

kweingar wrote: post #206

Obviously incredibly cool, but it seems that people are incredibly overstating the applications of this. Realistically, how do you fit this into a movie, a TV show, or a game? You write a text prompt, get a scene, and then everything is gone—the characters, props, rooms, buildings, environments, etc. won’t carry over to the next prompt.

What? You're serious?

Script => Video baseline. Take a frame of any character/prop/room/etc you want to remain consistent, and one shitty photoshop and it's part of the new scene.

Incredibly overstating. That is an incredible lack of imagination buddy. Or even just basic craftsmanship.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by matheusmoreira »

barbarr wrote: post #495
kweingar wrote: post #206

Obviously incredibly cool, but it seems that people are incredibly overstating the applications of this. Realistically, how do you fit this into a movie, a TV show, or a game? You write a text prompt, get a scene, and then everything is gone—the characters, props, rooms, buildings, environments, etc. won’t carry over to the next prompt.

Explicit video clips? 4chan is gonna have a field day with this.

Not necessarily explicit. Maybe just deliberately offensive. Maybe just weirdly specific.

It's gonna be great.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by neya »

gerash wrote: post #381
crazygringo wrote: post #190

This is insane. But I'm impressed most of all by the quality of motion . I've quite simply never seen convincing computer-generated motion before . Just look at the way the wooly mammoths connect with the ground, and their lumbering mass feels real. Motion-capture works fine because that's real motion, but every time people try to animate humans and animals, even in big-budget CGI movies, it's always ultimately obvio…

When others create text to video systems (eg. Lumiere from Google) they publish the research (eg. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2401.12945.pdf ). Open AI is all about commercialization. I don't like their attitude

When has OpenAI - for a company named "Open" AI ever released any of their stuff into anything open?

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by hackermatic »

theptip wrote: post #595
Animats wrote: post #588

The Hollywood Reporter says many in the industry are very scared.[1] “I’ve heard a lot of people say they’re leaving film,” he says. “I’ve been thinking of where I can pivot to if I can’t make a living out of this anymore.” - a concept artist responsible for the look of the Hunger Games and some other films. "A study surveying 300 leaders across Hollywood, issued in January, reported that three-fourths of respondents…

Probably a bad time to be an actor. Amazing time to be a wannabe director or producer or similar creative visionary. Bad time to be high up in a hierarchical/gatekeeping/capital-constrained biz like Hollywood. Amazing time to be an aspirant that would otherwise not have access to resources, capital, tools in order to bring their ideas to fruition. On balance I think the ‘20s are going to be a great decade for creativ…

It's always a bad time to be an actor, between long hours, low pay, and a culture of abuse, but this will definitely make it worse. My writer and artist friends are already despondent from genAI -- it was rare to be able to make art full-time, and even the full-timers were barely making enough money to live. Even people writing and drawing for marketing were not exactly getting rich.

I think this will lead to a further hollowing-out of who can afford to be an actor or artist, and we will miss their creativity and perspective in ways we won't even realize. Similarly, so much art benefits from being a group endeavor instead of someone's solo project -- imagine if George Lucas had created Star Wars entirely on his own.

Even the newly empowered creators will have to fight to be noticed amid a deluge of carelessly generated spam and sludge. It will be like those weird YouTube Kids videos, but everywhere (or at least like indie and mobile games are now). I think the effect will be that many people turn to big brands known for quality, many people don't care that much, and there will be a massive doughnut hole in between.

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