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On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f

That is not the Monty Hall problem, it is a trick question based on the Monty Hall problem. It's a reasonable test, and I see GPT-4 recognizes the problem AS WRITTEN, and perhaps "the Dumb Monty Hall problem" is some generally accepted standard that I haven't encountered before. edit: "AS WRITTEN"

"Understands" is too strong of a word, more that it recognizes the problem as written. Here's yet a slight variation - just as simple - but changed enough it now is wrong.

https://chat.openai.com/share/22a9027f-a2c1-428a-94a2-8fd918...

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I thought it was just supposed to be a pun on “gen’ AI”

> thought it was just supposed to be a pun on “gen’ AI”

Then they'd have gone with Genie.

Which would be kinda genius on their part, but Google isn't that kind of company anymore.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Gemini was a stepping stone to a moonshot, which is almost certainly why the name was chosen. Edit: another poster shared the etymology, the merger between Google Brain and DeepMind. I shall eat my words.

Perhaps. Corporate entomologies tend to be very well rehearsed stories, and I’ve been around the valley long enough to know those stories aren’t always the whole story. I would encourage you to read the Kissinger / Schmidt book before settling your opinion. That origin story may be true. But it doesn’t make the whole story necessarily. https://time.com/6113393/eric-schmidt-henry-kissinger-ai-boo...

"Corporate entomology" is a lovely term, evoking surreal (and yet strangely familiar) images of cockroaches in suits.

Brilliant!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#794

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Bard just sounds terrible phonetically. Bard. Like something you find in Home Depot or some kind of old timey woodworking tool. Barf. Bored. Bard. Yes I know what it really means but it doesn't change the fact that it's a terrible word.

That's an incredibly subjective take. I don't agree at all. I don't care what they call it but I don't understand this reasoning.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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It seems like you can disable the data being used from training by turning off gemini app activity. > You can turn Gemini Apps Activity off If you don’t want future conversations reviewed or used to improve machine-learning models, turn off Gemini Apps Activity Opens in a new window .

My reading of the fine print (IAAL, FWIW) is that turning off Gemini Apps Activity does not affect whether human review is possible. It just means that your prompts won't be saved beyond 72 hours, unless they are reviewed by humans, in which case they can live on indefinitely in a location separate from your account. I also asked Gemini (not Ultra) and it told me that there is no way to prevent human review.

You should never ask an LLM to answer questions about itself. The answer is guaranteed to be hallucinated unless Google specifically finetuned it on an answer of that question. The answer it gave you is meaningless. (But also, coincidentally, correct.)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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They’ve plastered “bard” ads everywhere in Tokyo for a while. Surprised to kill the name so quickly, the marketing team in Japan probably had no idea (Personally, I never liked how Bard sounded. Can’t put my finger on why, it was just not a pleasant name to me)

Barudu?

Baaado (バード)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Big idea but maybe they should have just named it Google

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Gem-in-eye? Ouch! Also, Gemini was appropriate for the space program because (a) there were two astronauts in the capsule and (b) because of the constellation, "aiming for the stars" and all that. For the Google project however I can't come up with a plausible explanation - Google doesn't even try to give a reason for the name either.

From The Decoder: >In April 2023, Alphabet announced the merger of its two AI units, Google Brain and Deepmind. The resulting Google Deepmind was to focus on developing large multimodal AI models. It was a big move that showed how much pressure Google was under due to the massive success of ChatGPT. Jeff Dean, head of Google Brain until the merger with Deepmind, became the new merger's chief scientist, with a direct…

Bicameral would have been better, IMO

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#800

ChatGPT Plus, the service everyone will be comparing this to, currently costs $20/mo. At $22/mo, can Gemini Ultra justify the price difference? There are many conflicting reports on the ebbs and flows of ChatGPT's quality, are there any good comparisons on how the two compare in practice?

Your feedback has been noted... I was just shown this pricing: $19.99 $0 for 2 months, $19.99/month after

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