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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by dutchCourage »

chuckadams wrote: post #591
dutchCourage wrote: post #322

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You're correct. I'm actually not sure what installing a PWA does that visiting the website in your browser doesn't, but it's essentially opening the website in a headless browser. So very much like electron except instead of having to bundle the browser in the executable it uses your machine's browser.

> headless browser I think you mean chromeless (an amusingly confusing term when it's chrome hosting the PWA). If it were headless, you wouldn't see anything at all.

Ah indeed I mixed up the two.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

What a pointless post.

I will use whatever browser I wish , thank you very much.

Firefox is rubbish. I prefer Safari. I don't care about the 'monopoly' the free market allows us to decide which is best, why would I use an inferior browser just for that reason?

It has very bad UI/UX very typical of open source/techy software.

There are zero reasons to switch listed in this article.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by aAaaArrRgH »

soundnote wrote: post #735
prossercj wrote: post #717

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At the risk of losing credibility in this community, I'm going to voice an opinion which I think belongs to the silent majority: I do not want to customize anything. I want to read the news and check my bank account with as little drama as possible. More customizable settings always means more things that can break. If the best feature of Firefox is that it has lots of things to configure, that's a negative for me. B…

Brave. Seriously. Turn off a few things at first boot, it won't bother you after and is just nice and clean: https://i.imgur.com/tuMGc3c.png

Still based on Chromium though, so the Manifest v3 drama about Google trying to sabotage adblockers still applies.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by pjerem »

Zetobal wrote: post #245
pjerem wrote: post #58

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The thing is we can hardly have something new. A new browser engine is an incredibly hard thing to program and historically they have always been financed by multi-millions (now billions) companies. Even Firefox via Google. If you want another engine that is not WebKit or Gecko and you want it open source, you are asking for something that the free software community failed to deliver for the last 30 years and that i…

Just fork it. I don't have a problem with the tech I have a problem with the corp that governs it. Because in their last Annual Report they see the future of Mozilla in AI services...and that's not what's going to get usershare back.

You can fork it but Google will still be the main maintainer but also the promoter of new APIs so your fork will be forced to either implement those new APIs or to accept their upstream changes.

With multiple engines that have a big enough user base, you force the actors to negotiate standards.

What will you do with your fork when Google will start to implement a replacement for HTML like they tried to do with Dart or AMP ? With enough competitors, Google is forced to make those unilateral evolutions backward compatible with what works everywhere.

With only one engine they can force their new tech in the engine and bet on the fact that it will be integrated in the forks because it’s mostly one pull request away on GitHub.

Maybe that would work if the fork somehow managed to evolve as fast as Google on Blink. But this literally means that you need Google’s kind of money amounts.

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