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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by gorjusborg »

gleb wrote: post #397
steveklabnik wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not trying to be dismissive, I was just explaining since there was some confusion.

I'll try to explain, not in the spirit of being argumentative, but with the hope of being useful. The comment you replied to was not questioning the value of integrated cabling. It was pointing out that the product description on the site does not make sense. "Cloud computer" sounds like a server you rent from AWS. It's kind of like calling Rust "cloud compiler." If you choose to use words that your audience doesn't…

> "Cloud computer" sounds like a server you rent from AWS. It's kind of like calling Rust "cloud compiler."

Cloud as a term is pretty undefined/overloaded. It makes sense to me if I think about 'cloud' computing as API-based provisioning on pooled resources.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by keepamovin »

outside1234 wrote: post #596
weystrom wrote: post #552

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Forget the numbers, just knowing that CEO is not fucking me over to build a second vacation home is Aspen would be enough for me.

Well, they didn't say the stock was the same for every employee...

While that may be true, it's also unfortunately true that stock in startups has a high probability of ending up worthless. It's important to compare real money now, not just theoretical money in future.

I doubt my Aspen vacation home developer will accept payment in startup stock.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by mhio »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #661

I have to say, as someone who will never buy one of these, I just want to see pictures of all the cool features they are talking about. And yet, their website seems strangely devoid of product photos! Or I have been unable to find them. I worked photojournalism in university, and it really strikes me when people talk about how cool their novel interconnect is and how clean the design is, but their long writeup doesn'…

This podcast on the backplane has the best set of photo's I've found so far:

https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1281318

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by ahhfgsado6698 »

acyou wrote: post #784

Couple questions: 1. Are there integrator companies that take these building blocks and build datacenters for other companies? 2. Are these racks intended to be bought in large quantities and put into new datacenters? 3. Is liquid cooling an option? 4. Do you sell datacenters as well as just the racks? Do you have any of your own datacenters built out? 5. Tough question: if these are so competitive and good for your…

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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by glandium »

vhodges wrote: post #694
sorenbs wrote: post #345

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I know you are half joking, but it would really be helpful to have ball-park pricing available. Are we talking Sun-level markups here, or how should we think about it? Given the enterprise sales contact form, I'm thinking yes, but I'd love to know for sure.

The last time (one of them) Oxide hit HN there were some ballpark estimates based on the CPUs in use, switches etc. Someone else said 500K and up. I wish there was a 4U version (10-25K but I don't think that they could come close to that price point - regardless even that is out of reach for me to ever get to play on one :-/ )

I guess you're thinking 4U blade enclosures? That would certainly be interesting.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by dclowd9901 »

bigironcto wrote: post #241

I am CTO of a large global data center provider posting with throwaway account. As a technologist, I really appreciate what they have done. Impressive work, high quality, however I don't understand who this is for. The meaningful market for Data Center hardware is pretty well defined in two clusters. People that build/make custom gear (such as Hyperscalers) and people that buys HP/Cisco/IBM/Dell... (blades or hyper-c…

I might not be some brilliant CTO, but this product obviously seems to fit _very well_ between two very large product offerings: fully cloud being one and fully on-prem being the other. I’ve often thought it would be cool if you could _buy_ a physical space in a server farm, like literally an area of square feet where the racks are all serviced and provided, but meets all of the needs a company who doesn’t want fully cloud has. This is actually way more clever than that.

A lot of people didn’t understand the need for the iPad mini or Mac mini or myriad other products without an obviously existing market. I think this is extremely keen of Oxide to fine the borders between these offerings and fit very snugly between them.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by mlindner »

ianceicys wrote: post #586

Dumb question: How is Oxide different than AWS Outposts or Azure Stack HCI? https://azure.microsoft.com/mediahandler/files/resourcefiles...

I don't know enough about Azure Stack HCI, though I expect it's similar. For AWS Outposts you can't actually own the hardware. It's hardware leasing on your own premises. More so, it's a black box that you can't inspect, while Oxide's firmware is all open source. You can even flash your own modified firmware without going through Oxide.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by glandium »

bobthecowboy wrote: post #652
Aachen wrote: post #612

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The blog says they're the first

Correct. I work at SoftIron. We have several HyperCloud systems in production right now. SI has been shipping purpose-built storage systems for years as the root-comment suggests, but HyperCloud (which is closer to Oxide's product) has been in production systems in defense, banking, internationally for well over a year now.

It looks like SoftIron is not shipping a rack in a single box, though.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by syntheticgate »

lxe wrote: post #788
steveklabnik wrote: post #507

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We are selling servers. You interact with those severs like you would a cloud, but it is hardware you own.

Thanks for clarifying. Do I physically connect the server to the Internet or is it colo'd somewhere you provide?

We ship you the whole rack you bought, either to your own on-prem datacenter or your preferred colo partner etc. Once on-site, assuming the infrastructure is already in place, it's ~3hrs to uncrate, connect power and network, and do the site-specific install configuration (like DNS, time servers, identity etc etc).
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