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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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ihateolives wrote: post #441
BaseballPhysics wrote: post #302

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It's not "drama", it's protecting their community from an instance that's currently being bombed by trolls. Seriously, the concern trolling around here regarding federation is almost comical. Apparently when major private corporation admins or volunteer mods arbitrarily intervene in the functioning of a platform it's totally fine, but when local server admins do it by moderating locally or de-federating from problem…

It's literally throwing thousands of babies out with bathwater. Beehaw in their attempt of building a happy place has disabled downvoting so community can't downvote trolls and only tool they apparently have to fight trolls is to defederate two of the biggest instances. Problem solved? It's like blocking entire small country by IP because your had two port scans from there.

Some of the most toxic places in existence are those obsessed with positive attitude.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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cdelsolar wrote: post #425
beowulfey wrote: post #187

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Try Lemmy.world. Currently the fastest growing Lemmy server. It feels basically like any other social media site, like Hacker News or Reddit. I was using it, and seeing people post from other servers was pretty seamless and felt intuitive. Honestly, I say this all the time but I think people just need to treat federation like it's email. The difference is that the "email threads" are public to all, rather than in you…

I’m a technical person and I still don’t understand what federation is. I also read somewhere to treat it like email. What is like email? To who? I don’t understand how all the servers are interlinked and what it means to post from one server to another. Do I have identities on all the servers?

The easiest way to think of it is a bunch of small reddits or twitters whose users can follow people on other small reddits or twitters. The defederation concerns are because being able to talk to people on other small twitters or reddits and not having things dictated from on high are the big selling points to most people.

You have an account on one server eg. foo@bar.com. People on example.com smallreddit will see you're posting from bar.com (ie. your username will look something like foo@bar.com). The bar.com server's UI may expose stuff from other servers to bar.com users, and the reverse.

Defederation means severing those visitation rights and other interop between two small twitters or two small reddits, something Mastodon servers use rather liberally.

In practice, what ends up happening is that at least Mastodon has hideous degrees of ideological conformity via defedding and general woke modding, and there's essentially standalone dissident "witches' covens" and an archipelago of servers whose maintainers tend to think different politics are de facto evil. I could hardly use the same account to see what progressives, gendercrits and various strands of the right are talking about the way I can on Twitter, for example, because of the defederation moats that have been erected.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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CBarkleyU wrote: post #606
theossuary wrote: post #193

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Picking a Lemmy server mostly matters because different servers will have different moderation practices, UIs, and communities. So you should pick a server that gels with what you want from a community. Also keep in mind many servers have explicit federation block lists. Once you've picked a server and signed up, you can access any community on any other server by just searching for the community url on your instance…

>The expectation I think is different communities in different instances will win and be the primary places for games, or technology, etc. So there will be several r/games, r/videos, r/gifs, [...] on the Fediverse? This seems like a big hassle, no? Is there a built in solution to aggregate these? One could argue that on Reddit subreddits also competed against each other, but in reality most of the time, the subreddit…

Yes and no, for example on Reddit there's a cars community and an auto community, they're moderated differently and so have different content even though they have the same subject. There are plenty of smaller communities for specific models of cars too; it's not like there's only the cars subreddit.

Having an instance attached is great imo, because it doesn't allow name squatting, anyone can make a cars community on their own instance now and grow it.

For the fediverse the large instances will probably have a lot of the generic popular communities, but it also allows groups to host their own instance for their niche. I think this is awesome, because those small niche communities are the best, and finding them is actually fun.

For example there's now a programming.dev instance that has the best programmer humor community, there's also a good rust community there. But there's also now a lemmyrs.org instance picking up steam and may take over. I'm subscribed to both, there isn't a limit.

As for finding community, there's a bunch of ways. Sidebars of your current favorite communities may link out to others; the communities tab of your instance, with All selected, will show any community any other user of your instance has subscribed to. But a good place to start looking for communities is https://browse.feddit.de

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by vGPU »

smolder wrote: post #783
vGPU wrote: post #780

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IRC is long dead. The only time I even see IRC groups anymore is for piracy.

I'm on a sort of global village irc server I found a link to in HN comments, and I keep in touch with a couple other sets of friends through efnet and private irc (with discord relay). It's dead relative to its hay day, but protocols never really die .

The protocol might not be dead, but 99% dead is pretty much the same thing. How many people do you know that still use Usenet for discussion?
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