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Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Turing police? https://williamgibson.fandom.com/wiki/Turing_Police

They will chase after civilians for running unlicensed AI as a way to distract attention from the real threats by state-level actors.

So less Neuromancer and more Ghost in the Shell.

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Is military capable AI in the hands of few militaries safer than in the hands of many? Or is it more likely to be used to bully other countries who don't have it? If it is used to oppress, would we want the oppressed have access to it? Or do we fear that it gives too much advantage to small cells of extremist to carry out their goals? I can think of pros and cons to both sides.

within a few decades there will probably be technology that would allow a semi-dedicated person to engineer and create a bioweapon from scratch if the code was available online. do you think thats a good idea?

Within a few decades there will probably be technology that would allow a semi-dedicated person to engineer and create a vaccine or medical treatment from scratch if the code was available online. Do you think that's a good idea?

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The worries about AI taking over things are founded and important, even if many sci-go depictions of it are inaccurate. I’m not sure if this would be the best solution but please don’t dismiss the issue entirely

Seriously, I'm very concerned by the view being taken here. AI has the capacity to do a ton of harm very quickly. A couple of examples: - Scamming via impersonation - Misinformation - Usage of AI in a way that could have serious legal ramifications for incorrect responses - Severe economic displacement Congress can and should examine these issues. Just because OP works at an AI doesnt' mean that company can't exist i…

> Congress can and should examine these issues

great, how does that apply to China or Europe in general? Or a group in Russia or somewhere else? Are you assuming every governing body on the surface of the earth is going to agree on the terms used to regulate AI? I think it's a fool's errand.

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There is no way to stop self hosted models. The best would be to send gov to data centers, but what if those centers are outside US jurisdiction? Too funny to watch the gov play these losing games.

> There is no way to stop self hosted models. edit: Current models- sure, but they will soon be outdated. I think the idea is to strangle the development of comparable, SoTA models in the future that individuals can self-host; OpenAI certainly won't release their weights, and they'd want the act of releasing weights without a license to be criminalized. If such a law is signed, it would remove the threat of smaller A…

I have a question, AI is not exclusively to use with data from the internet right?, eg you can throw a bunch of text and ask to order it on a table with x columns, this will need data from the internet? I guess not, you can self host and use it exclusively with your data

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> For example, if next month you developed a model that could produce extremely high quality video clips from text and reference images, you did a small, gated beta release with no PR, and one of your beta testers immediately uses it to make e.g. highly realistic revenge porn. You make a great point here. This is why we need as much open source and as much wide adoption as possible. Wide adoption = public education i…

I think the stance that regulation slows innovation and adoption, and that unregulated adoption yields public understanding is exceedingly naive, especially for technically sophisticated products. Imagine if, e.g. drugs testing and manufacture was subject to no regulations. As a consumer, if you can be aware that some chemicals are very powerful and useful, but you can't be sure that any specific product has the chem…

My argument isn't that regulation in general is bad. I'm an advocate of greater regulation in medicine, drugs in particular. But the cost of public exposure to potentially dangerous unregulated drugs is a bit different than trying to regulate or create a restrictive system around the development and deployment of AI.

AI is a very different problem space. With AI, even the big models easily fit on a micro SD card. You can carry around all of GPT4 and its supporting code on a thumb drive. You can transfer it wirelessly in under 5 minutes. It's quite different than drugs or conventional weapons or most other things from a practicality perspective when you really think about enforcing developmental regulation.

Also consider that criminals and other bad actors don't care about laws. The RIAA and MPAA have tried hard for 20+ years to stop piracy and the DMCA and other laws have been built to support that, yet anyone reading this can easily download the latest blockbuster movie or in the theater.

Even still, I'm not saying don't make laws or regulations on AI. I'm just saying we need to carefully consider what we're really trying to protect or prevent.

Also, I certainly believe that in this case, the widespread public adoption of AI tech has already driven education and adaptation that could not have been achieved otherwise. My mom understands that those pictures of Trump being chased by the cops are fake. Why? Because Stable Diffusion is on my home computer so I can make them too. I think this needs to continue.

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we seem to forget history:

1. Who recalls the Jutland battle in early 20th century? We got treaties on limits to battleship building. Naval tech switched to aircraft and carriers.

2. Later mid 20th century Russians tried to scare world into not using microwaves due to their failure to get a patent on the maser. World ignored it and moved forward.

That is just two examples. SA is wrong, progress will move around any prosed regulation or law and that is proven by past history of how we overcome such things in the first place.

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This is quite incredible Could you imagine if MS had convinced the govt back in the day, to require a special license to build an operating system (this blocking Linux and everything open)? It’s essentially what’s happening now, Except it is OpenAI instead of MS, and it is AI instead of Linux AI is the new Linux, they know it, and are trying desperately to stop it from happening

I'm no expert, but I'm old and I think that Unix is actually the model that won. Linux won because of Unix IMO, and I think that its too late for the regulators. Not that I understand the stuff but like Unix, the code and the ideas are out there in Universities and even if OpenAI gets their licensing, there will be really open stuff also. So, no worries. Except for the fact that AI itself - well, are we mature enough to handle it without supervision? Dunno.
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