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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by LAC-Tech »

michpoch wrote: post #773

It really surprises me how much attention twitter is getting on HN. I must be living in some bubble, because not only I have never had an account there, I also do not know anyone who would be using it. From my perspective I'd judge the popularity of Twitter to be similar to e.g. Soundcloud - people know what it is, but very few people use it.

It's eye opening. Really makes me think HN is not a healthy place and I spend too much time here.

Maybe we need a new site. Well adjusted no public meltdown hacker news.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by cokeandpepsi »

i'm so tired of musk related shit, it's exhasusing to read -- i had to delete my twitter account because his stuff was constnatly surfaced to the top of my feed no matter how much i marked it as `not interested`

i do not care if he owns twitter, i'm just tired of hearing about it

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by amelius »

srrr wrote: post #609
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

The European Union Digital Markets Act, coming into effect in May 2023, explicitly forbids such behavior. (If twitter is classified as a "gatekeeper".) https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... Example of the “don'ts” - Gatekeeper platforms may no longer: - treat services and products offered by the gatekeeper itself more favourably in ranking than similar services or products offered by third p…

> prevent consumers from linking up to businesses outside their platforms

This seems quite commonsensical. Isn't there already some other (less explicit) existing law that has the same effect?

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by bscphil »

troupe wrote: post #541
threatofrain wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

Musk seems to be indicating that banning it was a mistake: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737

Elon has been so hands-on and vindictive that it's hard to rule out him personally deciding to ban pg and then going back on it, but that's not the only possibility. If you looked at the replies to pg's initial "I'm leaving" post, there were hundreds or thousands of Elon's reply guys mocking him or deriding the decision. Twitter has become much more of a toxic hellhole than it was before.

What I've noticed is that accounts tend to receive bans when a large number of users report them simultaneously (whether they are actually rule breaking has relatively little impact). It strikes me as possible that a bunch of Elon's fans reported the "I have a Mastodon account" post, and some moderator pulled the plug on the account on the assumption that that's what Elon would want.

To be clear, I'm not saying any of this would exonerate Elon. He put this stupid policy in place to begin with. If anything, the sheer scale of the pro-Elon toxicity I've seen in every Twitter link I've clicked today is a symptom of a much bigger problem that is slowly building on the platform.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by NavinF »

Hoyadonis wrote: post #85
Ferrotin wrote: post #14

Possibly malicious enforcement by Twitter staff in light of https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288 “Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme”

I wouldn't be surprised if the employee who did this gets fired as a result of this. In fact, I'd be shocked if @paulg isn't reinstated within 48 hours (as they did with Taylor Lorenz a few hours ago.) All of Musk's previous interactions with Graham suggests that their relationship is friendly. And if there's one thing we've seen from Elon Musk's Twitter, it's that he's not hesitant to fire Twitter employees.

> I'd be shocked if @paulg isn't reinstated within 48 hours

The only reasonable comment in this thread. He was reinstated a few minutes ago.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by hutzlibu »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #618
jdiez17 wrote: post #547

Musk just tweeted that @paulg will be restored shortly: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046164261149327... And “Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.” https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046168636732088... Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240...

> Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240 ... If it doesn't go his way how many times will he put up a new poll?

I think he will do it.

But he will still own Twitter and he will still take action, whenever he feels like it, so not sure if that would change anything. Either way, the whole drama is both hilarious and sad at the same time.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by John23832 »

jdiez17 wrote: post #547

Musk just tweeted that @paulg will be restored shortly: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046164261149327... And “Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.” https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046168636732088... Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240...

“Should I resign” is just more attention getting.

“Please tell me you want me.”

I’d advise everyone to just leave Twitter. He can still be “Head” there will just be nothing underneath him.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by [deleted] »

agumonkey wrote: post #482
computerex wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile others have been warning about his lunacy for years and up till recently have faced nothing but backlash from his internet armies. It just feels so good to see comments like yours. It's out in the open now, everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

That he could be an egomaniac moron was a thing but that he would be unable to adjust and react to massive blunders is still staggering to me. Even a mobster would know how to keep a low profile to keep his 'business' going.

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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by jacquesm »

jerrygenser wrote: post #786
jacquesm wrote: post #664

Paul's account is back up, but I don't think that the feeling will fade as quickly as the ban. Musk can and will do all kinds of stuff and test the waters to see what he can get away with, then backpedal when it blows up in his face. But if he could have gotten away with it he would have. So if you don't have Pauls' stature you are on thin ice.

This could have been some content moderator doing a casual override to something soft flagged, might not have been intentionally targeting pg

It doesn't really matter does it? Because if idiot policies can be made, implemented and executed to a degree that people like Paul get banned and then be rescued by the CEO of the company you have to wonder how many people without that kind of stature are going to be treated the same way.

This is simply no way to run a social media website. You need care and delibration, not spur-of-the-moment changes with massive impact on the site and its users, including some of your most steadfast supporters, which Paul clearly was up to that point.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by andromaton »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #594
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Paul’s unbanned now.

And it shows Paul is followed by 2857 people, following none. All this random minor chaos is a little saddening. Eggs have to be broken to make omelette. This looks like sloppy cooking.
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