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Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by salad-fan »

LegitShady wrote: post #737
mcv wrote: post #658

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> His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. I used to think that too, but I've since come across a story that SpaceX actually has people who's informal job is to manage him, and they present their ideas in such a way that he thinks they're his, in order to keep him happy. He's mostly there to bring money and hype. No idea if that story is true, but honestly, it would explain some things. The impression he's bee…

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Username checks out there Elno, but we see through it.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by tim333 »

pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

He's now at https://mas.to/@paulg by the way. Twitter account suspended.

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Post by pardon_me »

pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

The best choice. Twitter was Twitter before Elon Musk and it could be Twitter again after Elon Tusk - although it is likely to tank unless he has the balls to move on before say 2024.

I wonder what's next...

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by LegitShady »

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> if you want to pretend he has 75 IQ I don't think anyone has ever argued that. He obviously has above-average IQ. That does not automatically make his claims of working on rocket designs himself, credible. In fact, I think those claims put credence to the story that they present ideas in such a way that he thinks he's designing rockets himself.

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by systemvoltage »

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systemvoltage wrote: post #697

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I am fine with this actually. It is not Amazon warehouse workers we are talking about. These people were highly paid and Twitter seems to run just fine without them. FAANG can probably get rid of 70% of the bloat. Elon did give them 3 months severence which is quite amazing.

Elon is literally trying to deny the severance packages he promised to give. How is this amazing? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/musk-brings-spac...

If this is true that that's inexclusable and shitty. Still legal(?), but not ethical. Looks like the they're being challenged in the court.

Whether firing was done ethically or not, I still think that Twitter was bloated af and needed trimming. The macroeconomic conditions led to a huge hiring spree for last 8 years of 0% interest rates. We fucked around in the silicon valley and we are about to find out.

Overall, on a national/GDP scale, we can use these employees for betterment of other things than wasting their time at FAANG/Twitter. I'd like to see 1000 lean and mean companies than 10 bloated FAANGs.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by mvkel »

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter.

He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to.

By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network.

I also fail to see how users could think this is reasonable considering Twitter has no way to upload long-form video. So how could YouTube be a competitor?

And the policy doesn't talk about Tiktok whatsoever, which is arguably an actual threat to Twitter, since it replaced Vine.

Overall, something's fishy.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by mcv »

raverbashing wrote: post #589
hakanderyal wrote: post #451

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I'm starting to believe being a Twitter user is the worst thing that happened to Elon.

Sounds like it's a theme with certain people, interestingly enough

Yeah, I don't think excessive Twitter use is healthy. Or at least not for a certain type of person.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by concordDance »

sandofsky wrote: post #704
pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

Two years ago you published an essay that seemed to argue that criticism against Elon Musk was simply from “Haters,” jealous of his success. http://paulgraham.com/fh.html In light of recent events, have you considered updating the essay?

That's definitely not what he argues there. It's quite possible for 95% of hate to be mostly unfounded while that person is still worthy of hate. It's just that the existence of haters does not necessarily mean that person is hate-worthy.

The different rates and ways that various types of information travels through media (both social and not) and gets distorted by it are fascinating and there's probably been some good books written on them...

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Post by LegitShady »

ssnistfajen wrote: post #778
rising-sky wrote: post #702

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Well account is now suspended so I guess you were "made to leave"

Elon is so incredibly thin-skinned that he's burning bridges with anyone who dares to not agree with him even once. First Bari Weiss, now Paul Graham. Paul clearly stated here & on Mastodon that he still believes in Elon Musk. This is classic self-sabotage of a deranged dictator.

What do you think the odds are that elon did it or even knew about it?
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