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Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#792I wonder if this is an example of not knowing your audience (or rather assuming one's self represents a wider audience than it does). The people vouching for this at Google are likely product marketing managers, public relations folks, social media managers, etc. All they do is write corporate garbage all day, and much like we have "nit"s in PR's for formatting, variable names, etc; they likely have similar reviews t…
I support it and I don’t work for google. I like this feature that encourages more empathy in this strife and hate filled world.
Serious question: in what way do you feel that Google suggesting alterations to the specific language used in the article (words like motherboard or fierce) is helping people be more empathetic?
I'm putting aside intentionally and just curious about how this actually encourages empathy?
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#793It’s also inaccurate to call this language “inclusive.” In reality, you’re excluding most Americans who aren’t among the handful of mostly affluent, white, college educated people who talk like this. My Bangladeshi immigrant mom would have no idea what to do if a warning popped up telling her that she should use a different word than “mother.”
Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters not even in the language of the people you refer to. This is white cultural imperialism, full stop. Right or left, I don't care where it comes from - I know it when I smell it.
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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This is wrong. It's a good rule of thumb because passive voice can be a common indicator of weak writing, but it has plenty of good uses in strong writing. The best case to apply it is when the object of a sentence was previously a subject or other focus of prior sentences, and so is more familiar to the reader than the subject of the new sentence. For example: "The United States had maintained neutrality until 1941.…
How and why is that possibly better than saying "the Japanese attacked them at Pearl Harbor"? The passive voice is what enables the omission of the actor.
Could also just say "the attack on". Then you don't shift focus or use the passive voice.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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> Amazon claims that Alexa isn't always listening too and/but/yet also that it'll wake up immediately when you say the right wake word Strictly Alexa, the device, is always listening in order to trigger on the wake word. It's just that audio doesn't get sent to Amazon until it hears a wake word (then it just streams the audio to Amazon to process it. locally it's only smart enough to listen for a wake word). This is…
You'd agree that this creates a hypertechnical situations where slight changes in the hardware or software create undetectable situations for non-technical consumers. For example, we do not know for certain that Alexa devices never stream audio when they have not yet processed the wake word. A device that you test it on may have a different policy from a device sold a year from now, yet the Internet (archives) will s…
Snowden called this "turnkey tyranny." The idea that the technology for dystopia already exists and is widely distributed, but the key simply hasn't been turned yet.
All it would take for Amazon (or whichever government twists their arm) to listen to millions of households surreptitiously is a quiet software update.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#796Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters not even in the language of the people you refer to. This is white cultural imperialism, full stop. Right or left, I don't care where it comes from - I know it when I smell it.
These people remind me of crusaders a thousand years ago, fighting the "infidels" all over. In fact, the whole body of thought governing them reminds me too much of the Latin Church. I have no words to express how I detest the kind of thinking behind them.
How dare you compare us progressives to the oppressors in the church who forced the natives into slave labor! We’re nothing like the imperialist Catholic inquisition. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have some statues I need to go iconoclasm.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#797Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters not even in the language of the people you refer to. This is white cultural imperialism, full stop. Right or left, I don't care where it comes from - I know it when I smell it.
This is an inherent feature of the emerging system where cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals (who are far whiter than the population as a whole). That’ll be true even on matters relating to minorities, because it’ll be college educated white people empowered to decide which non-white people get a platform.
> cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals
It doesn't flow anywhere except to other college educated professionals. These people attempt to tell rural, or the working-class, or immigrants what to say and how to behave, who then turn around and do something else like elect Trump.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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> pretending it's gendered is just lying to try and be offended. Please don't assume this. In the southern US in the late 80s and early 90s, "landlady" was a term that was very commonly used for female "landlords". I'm not sure if it's specifically regional, though.
"landlady" existing doesn't mean landlord is gendered. Actor and Actress.
Actor has only be degendered the past 10-20 years or so.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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if only English had a gender neutral pronoun that could be used by default when the gender of the subject isn't provided :thinking:
I still unironically want a singular variant to rise in popularity, don't particularly care what. There are so many times when "they" comes up and I have no clue if we're talking about a person or a group. There's already enough pronoun ambiguity when talking about single subjects without intoducing a dimension of plurality ambiguity.
If you think that's bad, you should see how ambiguous the plurality of the gender-neutral 2nd person pronoun is!
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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If you can (i.e. you don't fear persecution), please let them know that this was the reason. Part of the reason these things have taken off is that their proponents are very vocal, while the opponents prefer to just mind their own business.
Absolutely do not do this. There is massive brigading that happens and the folks pushing the "anti-isms" are very very focused on this stuff. You will get on a list as some type of abuser / racist. Everyone knows to keep heads down on this stuff at a place like google or just find somewhere else to work. It really doesn't matter if you are liberal in all other ways even.
What possible kind of persecution could GP experience?
Even if declined citing a reason everyone could reasonably agree is reprehensible, do you imagine that the activists at Google would - what - put GP on a Silicon Valley blacklist that everyone subscribes to?