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That page is due for a change, for sure. We're very resource-constrained.
Hey, you don't have to explain it to me. Creating a category page with "CCP Virus" and QAnon at the top is obviously a side effect of... uh... _resource_ constraint. OK but to drop the sarcasm, I guess it is true there is a certain resource y'all lack that other people have.
YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation
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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation
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Hey, you don't have to explain it to me. Creating a category page with "CCP Virus" and QAnon at the top is obviously a side effect of... uh... _resource_ constraint. OK but to drop the sarcasm, I guess it is true there is a certain resource y'all lack that other people have.
Definitely less elitism and snobbery, but we have a sense of humor and and awareness of what's currently blacklisted elsewhere. It doesn't make much sense to me, to criticize Gab for highlighting things which are VERBOTTEN elsewhere, when that is the entire flipping point, isn't it?
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> also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post . It indeed is. As a layperson who knows nothing about a field, not even a closely related field your best bet is to accept the scientific consensus. And by best bet I mean that that that is the choice that will give you the highest expected value of success. People keep pointing at the cases from the past (sometimes from the very far past, like w…
> science has evolved a lot since then. Given that there is no way to measure absolute scientific progress, this is a meaningless and baseless claim. At the time of Galileo, scientists had, after many centuries, perfected their means of calculating geocentric orbits. Thee equations worked extremely well. Experts at the time would have told you that science had progressed significantly since the time of Aristotle. Yet…
> At the time of Galileo, scientists had, after many centuries, perfected their means of calculating geocentric orbits.
Again, Galileo had a clash with the catholic church not really fellow scientists.
> Thee equations worked extremely well.
I'm not so sure. Galileo came up with his theory based on what geo-centric view couldn't explain.
> Experts at the time would have told you that science had progressed significantly since the time of Aristotle.
> Yet it had progressed in a completely wrong direction.
Which was true. They indeed got ahead, because they also had to perfect the math and measurements, etc. Not just the descriptions of the orbits. Also, BTW, Galileo was wrong. He thought the Sun was the center of the freaking universe, which it isn't at all.
Also what are you then arguing for? If you can't say that science evolves and improves over time then what's wrong with censorship? Those ideas that you think would be censored (I didn't exactly say that, but let's go with it for now) would not improve science. Or, at least we wouldn't be able to measure it, according to you.
The way I like to think about it is that science is a machinery that constantly builds and improves itself. It not only gets 'bigger' but it constantly gets better and building itself by improving the scientific method itself. E.g. if you think about medical sciences again, 150 years ago doctors would experiment on themselves (n=1) and use their "experience" (i.e. a small amount of inaccurate measurements aggregated in their head). These days we do double blinded, randomized controlled trials and funky statistic checks to filter out errors, then other people look over the results multiple times (think peer reviews and meta-analysises). It's an iterative process that keeps correcting and perfecting itself. And we do know when we go in the wrong directions because results will be off from the reality.
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Yeah, the social media and the internet is full of these claims and I see how these are pretty easy to believe when told with enough confidence. Which was an interesting revelation for me. Since the average person doesn't know much about the background (me included!) and since a similar claim takes a lot of knowledge to disprove it just sounds plausible by default. Because if someone makes a more specific claim, like…
My undergrad is in biology and I got it many years ago. I can only imagine how much has changed since then. Does anyone think that in the infinite complexity of the human body and the immune system that we think we have 'figured covid out' by discovering a single spike protein? There's such an endless possibility of how Covid can interact with the body. We are just touching the surface of how the body works. They jus…
1., nobody said "we figured covid out". I said we learned a lot about it pretty quickly. (BTW, coronaviruses and SARS in particular have been researched pretty intensively since 2003, the first SARS pandemic.)
2., they didn't just discover a "single spike protein"
> There's such an endless possibility of how Covid can interact with the body.
Actually, no. There are indeed very definitive ways SARS-CoV2 (or any virus, for that matter) can interact with the body. It's not a living thing. It needs to get into specific type of cells and it can only do it through the spike protein which will only bind to the ACE2 receptor. As long as/if it doesn't happen, the virus is an inert particle. E.g. it won't proliferate in mice (without genetically making them susceptible) or in most other animals. Also, we have a lot of virus particles in us that can't interact with the human cells, so we'll never know about them. One interesting comment from the above curse was that prof. Racaniello said that you can learn bout your "virome" by sequencing your stool and some experiment found that the most frequent virus in there is some plant virus (which don't even have the capability to enter even plant cells by themselves).
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I missed the part where America got destroyed by this. Could you clue me in?
* Afghanistan pull out: Disaster. Many Americans STILL trapped in Afghanistan while Biden looks like cornholio on national TV https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 * 100+ days of crisis at the border. No law and order. No enforcement of law. Massive crisis that didn't exist on Jan 5th. https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation... * Massive inflation under way. Unseen failure from the to…
First and foremost, there's a reason why political discussion is not welcomed here, as it gets ugly really fast.
You made a simple point and I wanted to clarify it:
> biden gets a cut from his family making millions on his name
I'm not aware how Biden Sr. is cashing in on his son's "work". Please note that I'm not contesting the fact that his son's role was some degree of corruption, but I haven't seen compelling evidence that the money was flowing back to his dad.
Please stay on topic.
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* Afghanistan pull out: Disaster. Many Americans STILL trapped in Afghanistan while Biden looks like cornholio on national TV https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 * 100+ days of crisis at the border. No law and order. No enforcement of law. Massive crisis that didn't exist on Jan 5th. https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation... * Massive inflation under way. Unseen failure from the to…
Let's calm down, m'kay? First and foremost, there's a reason why political discussion is not welcomed here, as it gets ugly really fast. You made a simple point and I wanted to clarify it: > biden gets a cut from his family making millions on his name I'm not aware how Biden Sr. is cashing in on his son's "work". Please note that I'm not contesting the fact that his son's role was some degree of corruption, but I hav…
Hard to stay on topic with you moving the goal posts...
Can we get an itinerary so I know where the goal posts are going to be? That way we can try to synchronize what "on topic is" since it apparently changes from one post to the next with you...
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That’s literally what you were just accused of doing. Demanding a source that supports your claim by negating his. The left controls the internet, and has for a while. Hence the right starts new sites where the left doesn’t have control.
The right seems to generally start news sites that peddle in a lot of either half truths or outright falsities. Given this can you blame me for wanting a _reliable_ source.
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The enemy’s tribe is bad because they’re racist.
Not only can you not define the buzzwords you used, but you doubled down and used another ill-defined buzzword that you also won't know the meaning of. You're a human being capable of far deeper thought than that. Why would you willfully cripple yourself so much? OK, that was a rhetorical question - you're intellectually crippling yourself to show allegiance to your tribe, membership in which satisfies some of your o…
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My undergrad is in biology and I got it many years ago. I can only imagine how much has changed since then. Does anyone think that in the infinite complexity of the human body and the immune system that we think we have 'figured covid out' by discovering a single spike protein? There's such an endless possibility of how Covid can interact with the body. We are just touching the surface of how the body works. They jus…
Yet again, a strawman. Or a few: 1., nobody said "we figured covid out". I said we learned a lot about it pretty quickly. (BTW, coronaviruses and SARS in particular have been researched pretty intensively since 2003, the first SARS pandemic.) 2., they didn't just discover a "single spike protein" > There's such an endless possibility of how Covid can interact with the body. Actually, no. There are indeed very definit…
>>>the virus is an inert particle.
Couldn't the same thing be said about the thinking about Thalidomide though?
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> science has evolved a lot since then. Given that there is no way to measure absolute scientific progress, this is a meaningless and baseless claim. At the time of Galileo, scientists had, after many centuries, perfected their means of calculating geocentric orbits. Thee equations worked extremely well. Experts at the time would have told you that science had progressed significantly since the time of Aristotle. Yet…
There are, of course ways we can measure progress. E.g. by measuring the results of applying science and scientific results to practical problems. Since we talk about medical sciences here, life expectancy is a good measure. So is being able to cure specific classes of diseases. And these are off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure someone into the philosophy of science could come up with much better and more general…
Science is imperfect and iterative.
Yet with that knowledge you have come to the conclusion that the mRNA vaccine is perfectly safe after being developed in 6 months and tested in humans for only a year-ish?
I follow your thesis but not your conclusion.