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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I've always been amazed at how hackers can exfiltrate so much data with no one even batting an eye. Doing the math, the pure data cost to Parler was $7,700 (($0.15/GB 10) + ($0.11/GB 40) + ($0.09/GB 20)) 1000 => $7,700 https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/aws-data-transfer-prices-re... Even the Chase Bank hack had an astronomical amount of data that didn't appear to set off any alarms.

This so much. Are they not using dashboards? This amount of traffic should have triggered multiple alarms. Makes me think their devs just stopped caring.

maybe the devs are doing free speech activites and not watching the dashboard. I know I am being distracted from work by the activity here

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#792

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Ermm, people who are trying to violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government while using slogans like “6 million was not enough” are literally nazis. You’re gonna have to find another hyperbolically bad thing to accuse your opponents of fear mongering about.

> hyperbolically bad thing You mean like that these group was "violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government"? Did you feel much scared of the possibility of some dictatorship (as opposed to an act of protest in the congress)? Second, even if they did seriously try to do that, heck, even if they succeeded in establishing an "authoritarian government", that wouldn't be enough to qualify them as "l…

> that wouldn't be enough to qualify them as "literally nazis"

How about SS tattoos?

"6MWE" - "6 Million Wasn't Enough"

"1488"

"Camp Auschwitz"

All things seen in the group.

But I get it, still not nazis, neonazi, or other. I guess unless they were card-carrying, dues-paying members of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#793

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Curious as to how you would define this as doxxing? The information contained in this "hack" is just an archival of all publicly-posted information on Parler, it is comparable to someone archiving my LinkedIn page and calling it doxxing.

Private messages are public? Also, it's hard to tell from the article, but it seems like there's phone.numbers and id involved as well.

I have not seen any indication that private messages are included in this. As the person indicates, phone numbers are only included if they were posted on Parler by the users themselves, but yes from what I can tell the IDs are the most "private" part of the leak. Although one could argue that they are still "public" given that Parler publicly exposed the information.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#794

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

I made one very earnest and honest libertarian-leaning comment on the Redstate forums before I was banned (this was probably 15 years ago). Well, it was "fun" while it lasted.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#795

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

Rule: everything is driven by someone's business model.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#797

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> It is literally the same as Twitter. Pretty much. What I find troubling is that despite containing the same cesspool of vile content, Twitter never got booted from Google and Apple App stores, and AWS.

> What I find troubling is that despite containing the same cesspool of vile content, Twitter never got booted from Google and Apple App stores, and AWS. The difference being that on Parler the 'cesspool' as you call it is all there is, or at least it is the main attraction. On Twitter it is easy enough to find, but an average user mostly does have to go looking for it, or at least be following someone who goes looki…

Okay, I see that POV--that Twitter is got a pass because it's worst content is just a by-product of their platform, and Parler didn't because it's worst content was the feature of their platform.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#798
post #748

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This could have led to the public execution of the Vice President and speaker of the house. This came close to being a dramatically worse event.

And until such a thing occurs, most Trump adjacent HN members with continue to play "no true scotsman" with the extremists amongst them.

I am hardly Trump adjacent except, unfortunately, geographically.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#799
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This story truly terrifies me: my team owns my company's sign up page. (I speak for myself and not them, of course). Sounds like Parler, fearing that their OTP provider might go down, decided to fail-open, ie: if the dependency throws an exception, presume there's something wrong with the dependency and that the code provided is acceptable. It never occurred to them that the dependency could be down permanently, or t…

>I would also probably buy said malicious actors a beer if I met them, accompanied by a high five. You would, would you? Thousands of individuals who by and large wanted to try out a competitor to Facebook ended up getting their personal details downloaded and leaked (and we're talking about very sensitive details here), and you're going to buy a beer for the criminals who did this? I assume before you turn them into…

> Thousands of individuals who by and large wanted to try out a competitor to Facebook

That is a very, very generous take. And if that's all users were doing then their data being breached is regrettable but not world ending.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#800

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The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions.

> The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions. Easily done: https://imgur.com/gallery/nHb2lO8 Some of these are Verified users - Parler has their Drivers License and Social Security number, and yet they still felt secure in brazenly violating the law like this.

Sorry, I should have clarified: find me a post that wasn't moderated away. Lin Wood's post was: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/parler-lin-wood-...

Unfortunately the service is down, but I would imagine that other post was removed as well.

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