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NYC-London flights were a lie?
I think he meant supersonic NYC-London flights. Or perhaps even hypersonic.
do those not mean the same thing?
The Boring Company [video]
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Re: The Boring Company [video]
#792Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, of course they aren't free. I also live in a house, that's more expensive than an apartment because I like it more this way. I often don't buy the cheapest food, but the food that I like. I don't want to force cars on anyone - it should be an individual choice of course. What I'm saying is that there are a lot of reasons people want to own cars. It's the choice between working with the existing system to make it…
> I don't want to force cars on anyone - it should be an individual choice of course. Ah, and this is where we come to the root of the discussion. Because ultimately the question isn't "Why would ANYONE want to drive cars" (though I confess it was originally presented to you as such), but rather "Why should society and governments INCENTIVIZE continued use of cars." The Boring Company's proposal here directly benefit…
I used to get a lot more reading done when I used public transport too. I miss those days :-(
Re: The Boring Company [video]
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Because you are now more dependent on private cars for transport. Why would you use this instead of a system where you take a neighborhood bus to the local transit station & shopping center where you can pick up a light rail to the closest subway station, where you take the express train downtown to the high-speed rail station, where you take that to visit the next state for the day? No cars, and you can sit and read…
I really don't think cars are going away any time soon for several reasons. Cars offer individuals far more freedom, go anywhere when you want. Also people live in rural areas, I'm not going to wait 3 hours for a bus to take me to my mom's house in the country, I'll just drive. In addition there is probably not a bus that goes there. People go shopping, they don't want to carry on $200 worth of groceries onto public…
You make plenty of good points but also ignore a whole bunch of bad ones you've made.
Your point about rural scenarios is pointless because this video and idea are clearly aimed at the urban transport problem which needs to be solved due to the fact that, around the world, people are increasingly moving to cities rather than the to rural areas.
When it comes to shopping, I don't know about you but I often find myself looking at other peoples trolleys and asking myself "Why would anyone buy 10 2L bottles of coke? Do you really need all those doritos? My word random stranger, do you subsist entirely on junk food?". There are times that one does come away with a large load of shopping but my wife and I have found that when you start planning your meals for the week and optimising what you buy to fit that plan you tend to come away with a lot less shopping than if you just go in an randomly buy stuff. Would would have guessed?
Your point about children is good but ignores the fact that there are huge numbers of people throughout the world with children who somehow manage to make life work despite not owning a 7-seater SUV...
I think it's better to say that people who can afford it might want to use a car now and then but they'd probably also love to have access to viable public transport for all those scenarios where getting into a car is more trouble than its worth.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
#794Elon should do AMA on Boring company to answer many questions and confusions here.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
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I think this crazy tunnel thing Elon just announced looks horrible, but the moment you claim that Tesla and SpaceX aren't doing anything special is where it becomes pretty obvious that you don't know what you're talking about.
Tesla sells high tech luxury vehicles that, as yet, aren't mainstream, and there are several road bumps to overcome before getting there. To laud Musk's success today to the point of proving success on his future products is premature. He hasn't completed his initial goals -- making electric mainstream and space flight an enterprise. Not saying it isn't possible or what he has achieved isn't great. Just saying his ex…
> aren't mainstream
Citation needed. I see teslas multiple times daily. In my book that counts as mainstream.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
#796My opinion: moving a problem to other place you do not solve the problem. We have too much cars, millions of people, each driving a ton of steel to move from place to place alone. Cars on the underground is not a good solution. What world needs is automated and intelligent transport, and for the masses.
Automated intelligent transport for the masses. Subway trains you say? Americans hate those.
Subways are expensive and complicated in some terrains, but woks pretty good I think, don't you?
PS: Hiperloop also seems a good solution for long travels. PS: Each solution is better for a specific problem. Automated cars seems promise to small and medium cities.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
#797I wonder why having to transport a car and not just the passengers themselves.
He is a car salesman ?
Re: The Boring Company [video]
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Who cares if The Boring Company fails? It looks cool! You know what happens if you don't try? Nothing. You never score for a shot you don't take!
If cities decide that The Boring Company is the way forward and it turns out not to be, that's lost opportunity cost and likely decades of people suffering increasingly poor transport infrastructure leading to more wasted time and less time that people can spend doing important things, like spending time being a productive member of society (not necessarily working a job - things like spending time with family and fr…
Learning what strategies don't work well is being a productive member of society.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
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You just did the thing I suggested was insubstantial and said hurts and I didn't like. Please stop. Also it's a logical error to judge a claim by the site it's on, or by the claims surrounding it. I linked to that page and specified NTBM. You could have substantially commented on the Los Alamos patents and their discussion on that page. But you chose to go off that page and to emphasize easy-to-ridicule parts. Please…
> You just did the thing I suggested was insubstantial and said hurts and I didn't like. Please stop. Also it's a logical error to judge a claim by the site it's on, or by the claims surrounding it. It might be a logical error, but it's not a mistake. If someone tells you lie after lie after lie, and then says something new, whose truth you can't immediately evaluate, the sensible thing to do is to think: this is als…
That's called confirmation bias and people do it all the time.
It just didn't work as a strategy if you actually wanted the find the truth. That's one thing this is about here.
The other thing I think you missed was the emotional context of these comments. I'm clearly asking for support and help to make HN welcoming, by not misrepresenting or cherry picking easy-to-ridicule info. It hurts when they do that and I don't like it. Please don't do it, don't ignore the people behind the comments, and don't quote this
> You just did the thing I suggested was insubstantial and said hurts and I didn't like. Please stop.
pretending that you've contradicted this, and made it somehow okay. You haven't and it's not.
Re: The Boring Company [video]
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If places aren't dense enough to support mass transit, they are certainly not dense enough to financially support car-trains tunnels. The depicted tunnels have the same costs as building subways, and I imagine similar maintenance costs. On the other hand, they can only serve a fraction of the riders a traditional subway can, which means the cost per rider is huge. Not to mention it still requires owning a car, so the…
Why does everyone lack imagination on this topic? Problem: if you drive to the subway, then take the subway, then you have two problems: where do you park your car, and how do you get to your destination once you get off the subway if it's not walking distance? Currently - people just drive. And the surface streets get progressively more crowded. We could drill more regular roadways - but it's notable that one reason…
> Why does everyone lack imagination on this topic?
You are right, I imagine that we should just have teleporting gates!
> if you drive to the subway
How about not driving to the subway? how about having local buses or that can take you there?
> where do you park your car
Car parks next to the station?
> how do you get to your destination once you get off the subway if it's not walking distance?
Buses or trams.
> Currently - people just drive.
Not everywhere, look at London for example.
> We could drill more regular roadways
No we can't, tunnels are expensive and bring a whole new set of problems like how do you handle an accident, how do you get to the surface etc.
> subway-like transport of passengers, or entire vehicles
That is horribly inefficient in terms of space and weight, average car weight is ~2 tons.
> powered electrically
Having it electrically powered does not mean that it's clean energy.