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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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It's not equivalent. Buying is far easier than selling.

> Buying is far easier than selling. That's an essential insight for anybody that ever wants to run a business, and it is why sales people get paid the big bucks and purchasers are only as good as the discounts they get.

Hah. Very true.

Unrelated, but nice to have interacted with you on HN! I've seen your handle and comments hundreds of times by now.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Windows does have a C# compiler by default. It is located in the `Windows\Microsoft.NET` folder. Not very discoverable, though. And starting with Windows 10 a metro app called 'Code Writer' seems to be installed by default for coding. (At least it's there in my installation.) I didn't try it though.

I'm glad. MS has made a lot of good programming tools. I really like Visual Studio and was a huge fan of QuickBasic 4.5 back in the day. Turbo Pascal was the killer app that first enticed me to the PC world. It still befuddles me why some of this basic functionality cannot be a standard part of Windows. Not every Mac user uses emacs, or even knows how to open the Terminal app, but the fact that basic tools are suppor…

I have a feeling they cut a lot of these things in trying to reduce the install footprint when netbooks/tablets were all the rage.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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> It's terrible to script I'm pretty sure you didn't try PowerShell. It is at least as good as bash, if not better. > you need to use the mouse too much I find this more problematic on macOS. I was forced to use a mouse much more on macOS. It doesn't even allow me to press the yes/no dialog only using a keyboard. On Windows nearly every item has a shortcut, sometimes even better than GNOME (but worse than KDE, IMO).

> It doesn't even allow me to press the yes/no dialog only using a keyboard cmd+first letter of the dialog option. I actually find OS X far superior with shortcuts than Windows: More discoverable, actually configurable and more consistent. One of the only things I miss now I've switched to Win.

For me one of the joys of using macOS is when you realize adding option or shift to a shortcut does a similar but more specialized thing that is more useful.

In Windows the shortcuts have always seemed less logical to me, though the newer Windows key ones are an improvement.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Homebrew is nice, but source based packages suck, especially on underpowered Apple hardware..

Not sure why you still feel that Apple needs "an open package ecosystem" when you're already happy with homebrew. Apple computers have a lot of problems, but that isn't one of them

First of all: > source based packages suck

Second: The package manager only manages a subset of user-installed software.

I honestly don't care much, since I don't even use OS X anymore, but I wanted to clarify this as one of many reasons why.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

Try moom . It's great

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Specifically: * HiDPI support in all apps, whethere they are aware of it or not. * Built-in PDF editing and creation from all printable content. * POSIX scripting and CLI. * Very clean and consistent configuration system (defaults). Reset an app to factory? Delete one plist file and potentially an app support folder. Got a new Mac? You could even boot it up from the old harddisk. Good luck doing that with windows reg…

You forget: Windows has NTFS which is still lightyears ahead of Apple's upcoming APFS, let alone HFS+ (how on earth is it still in use??) And I say this as Mac user.

John Siracusa, is that you? ;)

Btw. in what way is NTFS ahead of APFS?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Wow, what a torrent of negativity on this thread, I didn't see a single positive comment reading through the top level. This is excellent news, I'm chugging along on a 2010 Mac Pro and was very disappointed when the Apple Displays were cancelled last year. They are a staple of the lineup and always look gorgeous compared to what's on the market. I will definitely be buying the new Mac Pro and 2 displays to go with it…

Much as I am keen to see the Mac Pro replacement, It's not unnecessarily negative to point out the absurdity of the fact that in December, 2017, Apple will be selling, at a premium price point, no less, an _Ivy Bridge_ processor. And charging _twelve hundred_ dollars for 48GB of memory.

How do you know it's an Ivy Bridge? They don't like the version of CPU in the upgrade and Haswell would fit in the tdp.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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>Of course, if you are specifically looking for consumer tech, ease of use and support, then open source probably isn't for you. If you can look past your smugness a bit, why? Why is it that if I want "ease of use", open source isn't for me? Do you not see the problem here? I can't see how you can argue your favorite projects are more "innovative & stable than anything Apple have ever produced", but in the same breat…

I used to enjoy tinkering with computers and spending all my time on Linux trying to get things working. I didn't edit any code, just spent days getting ndiswrapper working, reconfiguring my desktop after an upgrade, refinding my partitions after LLVM upgrade decided to forget them, adjust myself to the steady removal of configurability in GNOME, adjust to the deprecation of things I used every day (Konqueror has gon…

Linux doesn't have to be that inconvenient. You can now buy machines preinstalled with Ubuntu LTS. If you want to keep upgrading to the latest and greatest, yes it can be a rough ride.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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You forget: Windows has NTFS which is still lightyears ahead of Apple's upcoming APFS, let alone HFS+ (how on earth is it still in use??) And I say this as Mac user.

John Siracusa, is that you? ;) Btw. in what way is NTFS ahead of APFS?

NTFS supports compression, hard links, streams, transactions, quotas, and has a master file table (or multiples of them) which enables tools such as Voidtool's Everything utility to find files in nanoseconds. APFS does not support any of this.

The MFT is very helpful in that it is on the disk itself, as opposed to Apple's solution of getting a separate utility to index the disk (Spotlight) and generating a giant database file on the filesystem in your hidden Spotlight-V100 directory. Spotlight is on the filesystem, not IN the filesystem.

The NTFS page on Wikipedia lists all of the wonderful features of NTFS. Also Windows Internals 6 details some in wonderous detail.

In any case, APFS is far better than HFS+ (which has to flip all metadata's endianness as it is stored in big-endian format). It also has single-threaded access to this metadata, from what I recall. John Siracusa's review 6 years ago of OSX 10.7 Lion detailed the poor state of HFS+: https://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/

Makes for sad reading.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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I used to enjoy tinkering with computers and spending all my time on Linux trying to get things working. I didn't edit any code, just spent days getting ndiswrapper working, reconfiguring my desktop after an upgrade, refinding my partitions after LLVM upgrade decided to forget them, adjust myself to the steady removal of configurability in GNOME, adjust to the deprecation of things I used every day (Konqueror has gon…

Linux doesn't have to be that inconvenient. You can now buy machines preinstalled with Ubuntu LTS. If you want to keep upgrading to the latest and greatest, yes it can be a rough ride.

That's a very good point to make. The "buy a machine with Linux on it" option didn't exist yesteryear when I was using it.

Very thoughtful point.

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