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Re: iPhone 7

#791

I found the WhatsApp integration the most intriguing part of the announcement. By allowing calls from WhatsApp to also be received, I am assuming they are making the native calling/iMessaging API available to any iOS application. While messaging with iMessage, Facebook messenger, WhatsApp, etc. can be done over WiFi only, calling is traditionally reliant on a cellular provider. The new iPhone only requires a WiFi net…

Yeah, they announced better VoIP calling APIs for iOS 10 earlier this year.

Re: iPhone 7

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To me, the biggest problem with this move is that you can't charge the device and listen to music with corded headphones at the same time. Unless there is some option I am unaware of. In any case, I just decided to replace my iPhone 5 with an iPhone 6s, which I should be able to find on sale.

Given that you get a lightning to audio jack converter right in the box it's pretty much the only significant objection IMHO. Converter cables aren't ideal, but hardly a ragequit issue. I wonder if third party charge/jack splitter cables are possible?

I'm still going to buy an iPhone; just not the 7. Since I generally keep my phones for three years, I will have plenty of time to see how this plays out in the market.

Re: iPhone 7

#793

Honestly if you had an iPhone 6 why would you upgrade? Better battery life is cool, and it being waterproof is novel. However, its basically the same phone for the end consumer.

Seems awfully iterative. You can usually tell by the meaningless "2x more speed" "x% brighter" figures.

Aren't all iPhones awfully iterative though? Surely this can't be a new revelation.

Re: iPhone 7

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How is talking about a game that came out 2 months ago out of it? > Half the crowd has forgotten Pokemon Go The crowd that originally played the game when it came out was gigantic. Even half of that is still a huge number of people.

>How is talking about a game that came out 2 months ago out of it? I think he means to say talking about a game at keynote is not very Apple-ish, considering their luxurious brand image.

Apple keynotes used to have like a 30+ minute section devoted to games and other third party apps. Or the time where they demoed a remote-control car on stage (and it failed horrifically).

It might not be cool or interesting, but it's fairly standard 'Apple'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnsR-kZUx6o

Re: iPhone 7

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I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

> > They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones?

>This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack.

I hate that they removed the 3.5 but if you assume that people are using a case then camera wart does not really make the phone any thicker.

Re: iPhone 7

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OT / @dang: This thread really makes one appreciate the new collapsible comments!

collapsing is really slow, it takes 3-5 seconds on safari + mba.

Re: iPhone 7

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1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. Is your car older than 3 years? If not, what prevents you from listening to audio via USB?

In addition to the question of cars which don't have it, software quality a huge problem and cars don't get software updates. I've rented a fair number of cars while traveling in the last year and hit a number of problems: * Everything Ford makes has a bug where the car's computer will lock for a minute or two and either crash / decide the phone doesn't exist or display a blocking modal dialog telling you that you ha…

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Re: iPhone 7

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I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Meh, I hate cords, so I've been using bluetooth headphones for years. Just a matter of finding good quality ones. I do think it's dumb to get rid of the headphone jack though. The waterproofing I think they could overcome, and it's not like they could get rid of the DAC processor. It's about space inside the case and thinness, but I think a thicker phone without a dumb camera bump and with outrageously long battery life would be more impressive, IMO.

Re: iPhone 7

#799
Question: besides a cool accessory (airpods), and a weird double camera thing, what's really pushing forward here?

Galaxies have been splash proof for some generations, and Bluetooth phones aren't new (only the design of this one seems to beat everything else).

Other than that, only traditional Moores Law advancements, like, more battery, more RAM, more processing power. None of these are enabling techs, in that they don't enable you to do anything that you can't with older devices.

So, I guess, update when the old one gives up the ghost?

Re: iPhone 7

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I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> Can't charge while listening. [ using a standard cable]

This is a complete deal breaker for me. I was confident that apple was going to unveil two models, one which had the headphone jack and one which didn't.

Lenovo at least had the good sense to offer at least one model that still had the headphone jack, as they were introducing a similar model which did not.

I'm so disappointed in apple.

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