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Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by alistproducer2 »

jmorphy88 wrote: post #445

All "diversity" programs, along with other legalisms like "minority" status, "historically disprivileged groups", etc. are entirely about anti-white racism and dispossession. They have no moral standing and no logical consistency, and they don't pretend to, nor do they even need to. It's utilitarian and provides benefits to a specific group at the expense of another. I'm happy GitHub is getting to experience the runa…

You don't believe any actions should be taken to try and unwind the lingering effects of chattel slavery and jim crow?

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by pacala »

droopybuns wrote: post #494

The current dominant themes in certain feminism & diversity cliques in our community are openly hostile towards me. I'm a male. I'm white. I'm middle class. I'm heterosexual. I'm also a leader. I'm a parent of two daughters. My mother had to fight sexism issues in her career. I am supportive of inclusion & diversity. I am trying to raise my girls to be empowered, confident & curious. But the dominant themes in curren…

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme. Down with the Kulaks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by jinushaun »

argonaut wrote: post #640
droopybuns wrote: post #494

The current dominant themes in certain feminism & diversity cliques in our community are openly hostile towards me. I'm a male. I'm white. I'm middle class. I'm heterosexual. I'm also a leader. I'm a parent of two daughters. My mother had to fight sexism issues in her career. I am supportive of inclusion & diversity. I am trying to raise my girls to be empowered, confident & curious. But the dominant themes in curren…

I don't know why you are so frustrated. It seems misplaced. The system is totally stacked in your favor (and my favor).

Because it's wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by humanrebar »

madebysquares wrote: post #530

Diversity is a touchy subject. As a black engineer myself I've worked at three companies where I've been the only black technical worker and it's hard some times. I've gone to conferences where I've been maybe 1 of 5 or 6 engineers out of hundreds. i don't do any hiring but I often wonder if there is a lack of qualified black male or female engineers or what but sometimes I do feel isolated.

> ...I often wonder if there is a lack of qualified black male or female engineers or what but sometimes I do feel isolated.

FWIW, my anecdata shows that less than 1 out of 20 technical interviews I do are with black applicants. I do wonder why that is.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by awakeasleep »

proc0 wrote: post #379

I would expect more from a tech company that is supposed to be by programmers for programmers. Programmers are abstract thinkers, and it's disgusting to see them lower themselves and adopt the semantics and memes of obvious cultural constructs like race. What does it even mean to be "white"? Who exactly are they talking about and what is it about this group of people that is so bad? There's no need to bring in this g…

I think you're seeing the tail wag the dog here.

Racism or 'seeing in race' isn't just a natural group-think behavior. It provides poeple with concrete benefits both emotionally (meaning, it allows people to tell themselves a story where they're better than other people) and logistically through the racial equivalent of cronyism.

So don't get caught up in the idea that racism is just a random behavior, or holdout from an earlier time, or something that people want to think themselves out of.

Acting with love towards all people and believing it's in your best interest requires a level of abstract thought and faith that isn't a prerequisite for tribalism & racial discrimination.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by jgowans »

tdkl wrote: post #520

Just wow. I'm thinking about pulling my personal Jekyll site hosted off GitHub pages and host somewhere else. Not sure about the alternatives though, with custom domain support. Ah well, a nice weekend task.

One option is to host the repo on Bitbucket and use the Aerobatic (https://www.aerobatic.com) static hosting add-on. Free custom domain and more, included.

disclaimer - I'm one of the founders of Aerobatic.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by kyrra »

exstudent2 wrote: post #678
archagon wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how people can seriously claim that these are "current dominant themes". I studied at UC Berkeley, one of the liberal capitals of California. Most of my friends are Berkeley students. Most of my friends are feminists . There's practically no hostility (as you put it) towards white, heterosexual males in these circles. I have never been personally attacked or felt uncomfortable. Most of the discussi…

The tweets in this article are militant. A Github employee actually said this: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2f12e526555008... That would not be possible if it wasn't a dominant culture (without him getting fired).

As someone else here pointed out, that tweet is out of context. It was part of a 10+ tweet rant about politics and social medicine. (It still is a bit offensive, but less so than the article makes it out to be)

https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/690601512813367297

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by captain_jamira »

jccalhoun wrote: post #745
archagon wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how people can seriously claim that these are "current dominant themes". I studied at UC Berkeley, one of the liberal capitals of California. Most of my friends are Berkeley students. Most of my friends are feminists . There's practically no hostility (as you put it) towards white, heterosexual males in these circles. I have never been personally attacked or felt uncomfortable. Most of the discussi…

I am an academic who is a straight white man and who researches things related to race and gender and I don't think I have ever met a militant feminist. If the internet is to believe they are everywhere but somehow I haven't ran into them.

I've been lighthouse keeping for 21 years and no one's ever thought that I was in anything but a lighthouse.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by alistproducer2 »

It is interesting to see how race is discussed on a site like HN vs. a political website. Even people posting opinions I disagree with state their point(s) with respect.

I understand how a white person could feel "under fire" in a discussion about "diversity" and "white privilege." For all the talk about the importance of empathy, it sure seems like some on the left don't have very much for our white brothers and sisters.

We have to understand that no one is born with historical context and we should't be so harsh on white people who either don't have it (context) or who do and feel singled out for being white.

We can't speak of the ingenious, invisible hand of institutional racism and then be mystified when a 23 year old white guy is skeptical of its existence.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by humanrebar »

Khaine wrote: post #765

Can someone explain to me why GitHub needs a "Social Impact Team". What benefits do they bring to the organisation? It looks to me like a massive money pit.

> What benefits do they bring to the organisation?

Marketing to uber-rich investors?

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