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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by mghackerlady »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #709
mghackerlady wrote: post #352

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Sorry, I should've specified soft mods. iirc there's only been 1 softmod for the switch that was patched out extremely early on before we knew about it

You're partially right, only the first revision of the Switch 1 could be hacked without modchips, but those early revisions can't have a software patch as the exploit relied on a hardware bug (some design flaw in the NVIDIA Tegra SoC if I remember correctly).

I don't count that as a soft mod. I was referring to a webkit based exploit in early versions of the system software

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by runarberg »

account42 wrote: post #748
runarberg wrote: post #233

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I don’t know the stats but I would guess more people have DVD players then Blu-Ray, so it makes sense for libraries to rather offer DVDs. DVDs is also one of these things that is good enough. The jump in quality between DVD and Blu-Ray is very unnoticeable (when fully immersed) compared to e.g. between VHS and DVD (or even between vinyl and CD).

That is very much not true and even less true when the blu-ray release comes from a new master that isn't limited by older technology.

If you are right and I am wrong, then that very much goes against the public perception. The switch to DVD was pretty quick and universally pretty well received. So the public was very much willing to spend their money and time to make the switch for the extra quality (or maybe the convenience) of DVD. The switch to Blu-Ray is still ongoing now what 20 years later, and it looks like it will never be complete.

In the eye of the public the quality of DVDs are obviously good enough, and the jump to Blu-Ray is simply not worth the time and effort to make the switch.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by giwook »

smgpie wrote: post #652
giwook wrote: post #68

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You've illustrated exactly why Sony is getting rid of physical media. Money.

But that's not how the numbers work. I bought a PS5 (instead of gaming on Steam or Xbox) because I could buy physical discs, and I like having them. I buy digital games from time to time as well, but if the PS5 hadn't supported physical games at all, I wouldn't have bought one in the first place, just as I most likely won't buy a PS6 because of this announcement.

I'd like to think I will also boycott any future generations of these gaming consoles, but the fact is that we'll get used to this as the new way of life at some point.

Our collective desire to play GTA 6 will outweigh our desire to "stick it to the man".

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by estebank »

account42 wrote: post #746
estebank wrote: post #275

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The movie itself is generally encoded at a higher bitrate than what you can find in streaming or torrents. The media includes bonus features that generally aren't available in streaming or torrents. The media will not suddenly stop existing if some server breaks down, some company goes under or some contract expires. The movie will not suddenly get "patched" with an AI-upscale or censored scene one day while watching…

Also, you can import blu-rays from other countries when streaming releases have geo restrictions.

Like DVD before it, Blu-ray includes region locking as a feature (but apparently ~70% of disks don't bother with it, notably Paramount and Universal don't). Non-locked disks are marked as ABC (A is the Americas and Asia, B is Europe/Africa/Aus/NZ, C is Russia/India/China).

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by mminer237 »

ZiiS wrote: post #65
dice wrote: post #36

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I was having this discussion with my 9 year old yesterday. He mentioned that a friend had Rocket League on their Switch 2 and "it didn't even need a game card". I told him that anything without a physical card can be taken away, the company that made it can decide to take it back or to stop letting it work. Compared that to my old DS which he found along with game cards for Lego Star Wars and Scribblenauts that still…

Be aware that many (most) new games with physical disks can also be taken away (see Concord).

Concord is explicitly an online-only FPS. I don't think that's representative of most games.

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Post by 0x457 »

Strom wrote: post #495
0x457 wrote: post #211

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You have to be very dense to think AAA video game devs have some woke agenda and not just knee-jerk reaction to market changes. There are plenty of games for you to goon to.

What's the difference between calling it "woke agenda" or "market changes"? Seems to me you agree with the other poster, that AAA game devs now make games targeted towards different people.

"woke agenda" implies that agenda is...being woke. "Market changes" implies companies that chasing money as they designed to do. AAA publisher goal is to make as much money as possible, they achieve that by selling as many copies as possible. That is achieved by targeting wider audience. Teenage boys and man babies with brains of a teenage boy can only get you so far.

It's really not that deep.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by 0x457 »

garciansmith wrote: post #460
0x457 wrote: post #237

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> One reason is control. You control the physical media. You can sell it, you can buy used games, etc. Unless that game ties to your account and disc becomes useless, or you game need a day 1 patch or day 412 patch or game is online or disc actually just a dummy that lets you download the game. Yes, the (in)convince of physical media totally worth it just so can sell what I got for $40/60/70 for $4 store credit at ga…

Games that require an online account, whether physical or not, are all bad, yes. But a lot of games are playable just fine without any patches, and there are plenty of physical releases, especially of indie games, which come out after the digital release and include all the patches. And putting aside the nice aspect of owning a physical object (often with cool things like a manual or map in the past and still true wi…

Booklets and maps are thing of the past. If you want more than a disc in a box you have to buy collectors edition that been a thing for the last decade, probably.

Indie games rarely come out on physical media. If you want a physical object for the sake of having a physical object - buy/print cases and print covers. Alternatively, get into vinyl, those at least can be presented as wall art.

> you still have no control over digital downloads unless it's DRM free

Again, with consoles you don't have control over physical discs/cartridges either. Nothing stops Sony and MS follow Nintendo. You can only "own" something if it's fully offline and DRM-free (be it officially DRM-free or liberated by nice people)

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Post by sidd_sarkar »

II2II wrote: post #576
Marcan wrote: post #447

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And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

> They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped. My take is somewhat difference: Sony is offloading the cost of their prior decisions onto consumers. For things like movies, they should have negotiated a contract where sold copies are sold copies and cannot be revoked (even if their right to sell/rent copies lapse). For things like the PS3 store, it cannot be run indefinitely. That sa…

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