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Re: The AirPods Effect

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I was in college when the first iPod came out. As an early adopter that was super into my music that first year or so, wearing white headphones around campus actually came with more social interaction. It felt like everyone was staring at me and usually people constantly interrupted my jam sessions to ask me about them. The novelty quickly wore off for me, I realized I preferred a more private speakered environment f…

That's my memory as well. Early '00s, I was also in college and seemingly one year campus went from a broadly friendly, social place to one with a lot of people, headphones in, focused on their own little world. There were Walkmans and disc Walkmans before that, of course, but MP3 players were a step change in social isolation, from my perspective. Bluetooth earbuds + a wave of streaming audio content have been anoth…

The time after I left campus life in mid00s was relatively normal until the AirPods came out then everyone everywhere started again with the headphones in most of the time, it’s been that way since.

What I find interesting is how there seems to be some people that also are just always on the phone talking in public. It’s either a headphone call or often complimented with the handheld FaceTime. The forced eavesdropping I am subjected to makes it sound like nothing important is being discussed. Reminds me of my land line calls as a pre/teen where we just spent hours on the phone with a friend and basically had nothing to say, maybe we watched TV together and commented about the show.

The phenomenon seems much more prevalent in certain demographic groups from my totally nonscientific observations and I find that interesting as well. From what I can tell, in jest, black women are not capable of grocery shopping without being on the phone with another person (and not talking about shopping list items).

Re: The AirPods Effect

#782

I was in college when the first iPod came out. As an early adopter that was super into my music that first year or so, wearing white headphones around campus actually came with more social interaction. It felt like everyone was staring at me and usually people constantly interrupted my jam sessions to ask me about them. The novelty quickly wore off for me, I realized I preferred a more private speakered environment f…

I don’t have airpods but I still use earpods for video conferencing. Honestly they fit and sound better (louder) when I have right and left switched.

Is this a primary preference or something you do because of your environment (busy coworking space/ cubicles/etc)? I use over the ear headphones when I need to but am thankful that I’ve almost always had a dedicated office and can use speakers and a microphone without disrupting anyone else. I also like the speakers because I can listen to voice/music while muting OS sounds or control volume separately pretty easily. The mic is just part of my camera, but it’s also a peripheral as my work laptop builtin is pretty crappy and I usually am docked with laptop closed.

I do think over the ear is so much better at anything else at noise canceling and blocking out the outside noises in general. On a flight it’s leaps and bounds better at blocking the dull humming of the plain. I have to really crank up the volume on AirPods to be able to hear a movie or podcast. It ends up feeling like I’ve actually done more harm than good to my ear health. Although the compact carry is a huge benefit

Re: The AirPods Effect

#783

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> What I'm reacting to is your claim that this is a simple "choice" that everyone else is making: Just because something is simple, does not mean it is easy. This has been part of ancient philosophies: “Freedom is the only worthy goal in life. It is won by disregarding things that lie beyond our control.” — Epictetus But also more recent writings: * “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is ou…

I don't know why my comment made the commenter respond as if I were suggesting to an alcoholic that "they should just stop drinking." It's clearly a difficult thing or else there would not be many many many individuals and groups dedicating their time to such an effort...

> It's clearly a difficult thing or else there would not be many many many individuals and groups dedicating their time to such an effort...

Yes, as I said: simple ≠ easy.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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I would even argue that being surrounded by people is a natural state. Being isolated in a suburban home or an automobile is probably just as unnatural as being “surrounded by strangers”. Our ancient ancestors probably did all of the following within eyesight and earshot of around 40 people: - Eating - Drinking - Defecating - Fornicating - Bathing - Exercising Privacy and isolation are a very modern phenomenon. Even…

But those 40 people were likely more or less consistent and known to you and you also had direct or implied trust built up with them. That's fundamentally different from an anonymous mass of people in a city. I've seen and heard much more than 40 people (many of them different every day) before I even reach the office in the morning.

> you also had direct or implied trust built up with them

This part is definitely not true. By all I read about the history, the abusive or hostile "I cant escape" situation was simple fact of life. They get less prevalent when you can leave easily, more prevalent when you are dependent.

> But those 40 people were likely more or less consistent

Not necessarily, people started to organize into larger groups basically whenever they could.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Is this sarcasm?

Not at all. As far as trade goes, we have birds of paradise in New Mexico, 320k year old obsidian tools and color pigments found in Kenya that came from hundreds of miles away. We know trading across thousands of miles has been happening for hundreds of thousands of years. As for large celebrations, ceremonies, or just parties—well it seems silly for me to even spend time citing specific evidence. Of course this has…

The (alleged) fact that there have been large celebrations does not necessarily imply that all humans of that time participated or enjoyed it, does it?

Re: The AirPods Effect

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It’s legit funny who you’re responding to with this exhortation on how to be a successful boss / business-person.

I'm sorry but I usually look at the content, the poster much later or sometimes not at all.

Yeah, I don’t think it was bad advice or anything, I just found it humorous.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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> Where I live, in southwest Germany, AirPods are far less common. FWIW I live in Amsterdam (also western Europe) and anyone in the streets under 50 is wearing them, myself included. > They keep them in while ordering and paying for things in stores and supermarkets. As a GenYer I find this rude and I'll take them out any time I interact with someone. My point being that their ubiquity doesn't have to mean people bei…

good that every AH has selfscankassa and i don’t need to take out anything

Re: The AirPods Effect

#788
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The author is from Germany and still complaining about Americans interacting with each other less in public? I've been to Germany so many times and almost never seen anyone speaking to strangers on trains/buses/trams. Once I was on a train from Cologne to Frankfurt with a colleague and we were talking nonstop. After a while we realized it was just us talking and probably disturbing everyone else! People go to extreme…

in the netherlands trains are usually too noisy to focus on anything unless it’s a silent car or 7am.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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post #347

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Noise cancellation headphones that will block out loud things or ambulances approaching you, sitting exposed on a motor strapped to two wheels at a high speed? Yes. That is different from driving in a Lexus.

I drive a car and ride a bicycle and an e-bike in Miami. The ANC isn’t that magical, I hear plenty of out of the algorithm noises (ambulances, etc). Head on a swivel and look straight.

+1, but add a motorcycle to that list too. Not Miami, but a large city, and now a smaller city.

All the assertions I'm seeing in this thread are bizarre to me. One can easily hear a siren over noise cancellation and over wind noise, and it's even easier to hear if you have noise cancellation for that wind noise.

As a related example, when I'm on an airplane and I have noise-cancelling headphones on, the pilot announcements are easier to hear than without them.

Re: The AirPods Effect

#790
post #347

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Is using headphones on a bike with music on or not somehow different from driving in a Lexus with music on or not?

Noise cancellation headphones that will block out loud things or ambulances approaching you, sitting exposed on a motor strapped to two wheels at a high speed? Yes. That is different from driving in a Lexus.

They don't block out loud things or ambulances approaching you. They block out constant loud background noise. This is why they're good for airplanes, lawn mowers, motorcycles and being out in public, and not good for shooting or as industrial hearing protection.

As I mentioned in another comment, on an airplane, my airpods in ANC mode make it easier for me to hear announcements.

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