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Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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White supremacists on the rise in the US. Never forget, there were people already in the US when they first arrived. White supremacists stole their lands. Come to the EU instead, we want more STEM people.

Ah yes, the EU, which has no problems with white nationalism.

I don't think the US or the EU has specific problems with "white nationalism" more than any other country.

You can't migrate to Arab countries easily if you come from sub-Saharan Africa. Is that "Arab nationalism"? No, it's just countries enforcing their borders and immigration policy. Effectively what pretty much every country does. You can't immigrate easily to most countries, it's the norm, not the exception.

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#783

That makes sense to me. If you come on a non-immigrant visa, you can’t become a permanent resident easily. it’s a privilege, not a right. Other countries like the UAE also take a lot of foreign workers but do not want them become PRs or citizens and there are tons of people moving there for opportunities. The labor is needed but they don’t want these people permanently. You made your money, now leave

Nice way to destroy the US economy over the next few decades, if you consider who made the country rich since WW2.

European scientists?

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

#784
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I received my green card in 2023 and I have mixed emotions. On one hand, I'm so relieved that I have been able to dodge everything that the administration has been throwing at immigrant (legal and illegal alike), trying to see what sticks, like mass deportations, border wall expansion, visa restrictions, asylum crackdown, H-1B cuts, and chain Migration Ban. On the other hand, we cannot apply for citizenship for 3 mor…

Not entirely safe even if you naturalize as they are now making noise about stripping citizenship[1] [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-administr...

They're doing this on the basis that crimes were committed before naturalization so therefore the N-400 submitted was fraudulent.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

#785

May the world extend Americans the hospitality that the US has extended to the world in the last year.

The US is an extreme outlier in accepting migrants. The current situation is effectively what the vast majority of countries already do. Some go beyond that, and gun down people with machine guns at their border. The idea that the US is not a country that belongs to its citizens, but some sort of abstract global entity that everyone in the world is entitled to is farcical, and it's coming to an end. The US owes absol…

> The US is an extreme outlier in accepting migrants.

The US is currently at a recent peak of approx 15% immigrants, much as it was in the 1860-1920 period.

This is less extreme than, say, Australia at 25% population born overseas.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

#786

This is just reckless without any responsibility. A number of people, especially in tech sector, legally stay in US while their GC is being processed. They have kids born in the USA. If such people were to leave USA to seek green card: - the kids must first get visas to their parent's countries - once reaching the other country, consular offices now have multi year wait lines for getting an appointment with a office…

cruelty is the point in case it wasn’t obvious

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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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This is insane. I cannot fathom how I, nor educated and talented people I know, could have possibly stayed in the US back in the day if this requirement had been in place then. Applying for a greencard while working on an H, J or O-class visa is extremely common. Far from a loophole, applying from inside the US is the only reasonable way to apply for a greencard. Depending on the country of origin, there may not even…

I’d encourage you to read the policy before you get too upset.

The policy specifically calls out immigration violations as the problem. It doesn’t seem crazy to me to restrict the benefit of AOS in the US to people who have NOT committed immigration violations.

In addition, the policy specifically calls out that AOS in country is entirely appropriate where immigrants hold dual intent visas. This would include H1-B (skilled workers and family), L1 (corporate transfer) and K1/3 (spouses of citizens).

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#788
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The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric. The requirement of being permanently obligated to pay us taxes on global income, if you have any kind of global mobility, is not worth it when you look at the situation objectively. The US is the only country that requires this, and signing up is voluntarily. So while US immigration c…

People said the same when the $100K fee for H1b was introduced, and said that the US won't be able to fill the 85,000 spots. But there were 211,600 applications in the last cycle. Also, your other 'facts' are incorrect. The US for example has the highest amount of disposable income per family, has a lower tax burden (despite your complaint about it) then almost all developed countries, and there is one more (small) c…

They're not collecting 85,000 * $100k. I'd guess the majority will be adjustments and therefore circumvent the fee.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Police have been killing Americans since at least the 1900s

What's new is that we have the deeds captured under multiple angles in full HD, and still around 30% of the country believes the victims were actually the aggressors and deserved to die. They're so indoctrinated that they're able to rationalize away their own eyes' evidence. And they feel comfortable enough in the current environment to try and gaslight you about it.
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