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That conveniently ignores the part where it refers to a fracturing where every part is hostile towards each other and unwilling to cooperate on anything. It's not a neutral term, it really is a rather offensive term for everyone from the Balkan today.
It's a historical reference to the events that led to World War 1.
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#782Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does France pronounce it?
I've racked my brain trying to write it in a good enough approximation, but honestly the "eu" sound doesn't have a match in most English accents, and neither does the "r", so it wouldn't make much sense trying to write it down in English. Youtube will give you hundreds of videos pronouncing it correctly if you want to check!
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#783Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you a DNC bot? You sure are hitting all of the classics.
Is reality a DNC bot? I'm someone who used to support Sanders, but I chose pragmatism and progress over digging my damn heels in and crying "conspiracy".
You guys only have one line, don't you. That, and "buttery emails."
Not that Bernie winning would have fixed the underlying systemic problems, of course.
The grand spectacle created by systematic screwing over by capital interests was the biggest value of the Bernie campaigns. Basically, you can have somebody willing to stand up to monied interests, and they will get exactly as far as those monied interests allow, and not one inch further.
> but I chose pragmatism and progress
Delusional take, considering Dems delivered "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden followed by the most unpopular nominee in recent history, resulting in Trump Term 2. Controlled opposition by definition. "Oopsies, how did we ever lose this time?"
tl;dr: [my original comment]
Re: Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130M Europeans switching to sovereign payment
#784And then Apple pay and Google pay are not going to implement it, and nobody is going to use it.
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Why is it crazy? EU has the "basic payment account" scheme which makes sure that ultimately nobody is left without a bank account.
Yeah, so they say. The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. The us also freely debanks people (and their family!) in the eu without any kind of legal process. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/europea... Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account but at the same time they may not disclose reporting…
Which committee is that?
>Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account
Such requirements tend to exist only in the case of basic PAD accounts.
>but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you.
So? Reporting you does nothing.
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#786When I click on a link, I expect information. When I get blasted with this: https://i.imgur.com/oeGU3qd.png I really don't know what to do. I can't read so much. Bounce.
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#787Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, so they say. The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. The us also freely debanks people (and their family!) in the eu without any kind of legal process. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/europea... Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account but at the same time they may not disclose reporting…
>The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. Which committee is that? >Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account Such requirements tend to exist only in the case of basic PAD accounts. >but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you. So? Reporting you does nothing.
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#788Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. Which committee is that? >Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account Such requirements tend to exist only in the case of basic PAD accounts. >but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you. So? Reporting you does nothing.
If they think you are a fraudster or terrorist (etc) they have to refuse giving you an account and must silently report you. What would happen if they skip/delay the reporting part?
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#789Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is reality a DNC bot? I'm someone who used to support Sanders, but I chose pragmatism and progress over digging my damn heels in and crying "conspiracy".
> crying "conspiracy" You guys only have one line, don't you. That, and "buttery emails." Not that Bernie winning would have fixed the underlying systemic problems, of course. The grand spectacle created by systematic screwing over by capital interests was the biggest value of the Bernie campaigns. Basically, you can have somebody willing to stand up to monied interests, and they will get exactly as far as those moni…
I'm not familiar with the term lol
> Delusional take, considering Dems delivered "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden
Progress != fundamental change.
> followed by the most unpopular nominee in recent history, resulting in Trump Term 2. Controlled opposition by definition. "Oopsies, how did we ever lose this time?"
You're not talking about Kamala Harris here, right? The general candidate who lost the popular vote by less than 1.5%? That doesn't sound like the most unpopular nominee in recent history, surely you'd need a gap wider than that. Donald Trump himself lost the popular vote by much more than that (4.5%) to Joe Biden in 2020. Mitt Romney lost it by 3.9% in 2012, McCain lost it by 7.3% in 2008, and Kerry lost it by 2.4% in 2004. All wider margins than Harris.
How did you come up with the definition of "most unpopular nominee in recent history"? Are you basing that off of her performance in the 2020 primary – which she dropped out of before it even began? Are you constraining "recent history" to just mean the last four years? Do you mean "unpopular" as in "unpopular within the social media spheres that I frequent"?
You're not looking at the electoral college results and using it as a proxy for popularity, are you?
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#790Earlier quoted context omitted.
> crying "conspiracy" You guys only have one line, don't you. That, and "buttery emails." Not that Bernie winning would have fixed the underlying systemic problems, of course. The grand spectacle created by systematic screwing over by capital interests was the biggest value of the Bernie campaigns. Basically, you can have somebody willing to stand up to monied interests, and they will get exactly as far as those moni…
> That, and "buttery emails." I'm not familiar with the term lol > Delusional take, considering Dems delivered "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden Progress != fundamental change. > followed by the most unpopular nominee in recent history, resulting in Trump Term 2. Controlled opposition by definition. "Oopsies, how did we ever lose this time?" You're not talking about Kamala Harris here, right? The general cand…
It's so blatantly intentional, and rather convenient how it props up the illusion of a functioning democracy by having the vote be so close. But no, according to you, that's all tin foil. Cool, enjoy your shithole country you helped create.