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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by dismalaf »

nottorp wrote: post #776
dismalaf wrote: post #774

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Dunno, AMD (and ATI) had a poor reputation for years and only rehabbed it when they released the Zen architecture in 2017. Even then it took a few generations to be seen as better than Intel. Intel has had a positive reputation the vast majority of the time from 1990 up to now, with only the last few years being bad.

> Intel has had a positive reputation For integrated GPUs? Both sides were crap until Zen. I just didn't notice Intel caught up. > from 1990 up to now For CPUs they're fortunately still playing catch up with each other. You remember when AMD released Zen, but do you remember when Intel released the Core stuff and how crap Pentium 4 / Netburst was right before that?

I'm just saying that people buy the best thing and memories are short, no one really cares what brand their CPU is...

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by margana »

passivepinetree wrote: post #444
brson wrote: post #138

I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…

Adding to the review thread: I bought a Framework 13 in 2021. I'm sold on the ideal, I really like the chassis and the keyboard, and I _love_ the screen ratio. I replaced several parts and own every type of connector. I really liked my 13! I just had my mainboard die, and I was advised there currently isn't another mainboard in stock that works with my old DDR4 RAM. They don't have any newer DDR5 RAM in stock apparen…

You do realize you can buy DDR5 SODIMM from anywhere, right? Even if they didn't have it in stock for individual purchases, how did that force you to abandon the whole system? That's like throwing away your phone because you couldn't buy a replacement standard USB PD charger specifically from the phone manufacturer.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by mapcars »

pxc wrote: post #707
mapcars wrote: post #692

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That would be fantastic! The standard keyboard design is extremely outdated, while for desktop there are some products pushing it with ortholinear layout and thumb clusters, for laptops its doesn't exist at all. I don't know how much keyboard-design flexibility is available to you, but innovative keyboard could even be a killer feature.

How is ortholinear supposed to be better? I've never used a full-size ortholinear keyboard but every time I've had one on a portable keyboard or mobile device it has driven me nuts (and staggered keyboards of the same sizes have not). I agree that offering more user choice here could be a unique and standout feature, though. One of the small things I love about their keyboard offerings is that they offer all blank ke…

Keys are aligned vertically, so your fingers move mostly straight up/down instead of diagonally.

The grid layout makes key positions more predictable and consistent.

Most ortholinear boards are 40–60% layouts.

Heavy use of layers (like Fn, but more advanced)

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by dtj1123 »

muyuu wrote: post #740
dtj1123 wrote: post #710

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This is essentially why I'm confused. All he's doing is setting up pre-existing drivers, any chimp with access to ChatGPT can do that. I don't see that he's bringing anything noteworthy to the table, but I've repeatedly heard people talk as though he's going to bring better battery life to Linux through omarchy.

merit doesn't matter people want to get laptops that work well and have good battery life, whether this was easy or hard to achieve means naught

Whilst that is technically a sentence, I don't think you've actually said anything

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by mistercheph »

kingsleyopara wrote: post #14

I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter) MacBook P…

Price of computer vs iPad keyboard edition

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by muyuu »

dtj1123 wrote: post #784
muyuu wrote: post #740

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merit doesn't matter people want to get laptops that work well and have good battery life, whether this was easy or hard to achieve means naught

Whilst that is technically a sentence, I don't think you've actually said anything

sounds like a you problem

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by kombine »

muyuu wrote: post #387
cogman10 wrote: post #88

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Ubuntu 26.04 hasn't been released yet and that's likely what they'll test on. It includes kernel 7.0 which has a bunch of the panther lake support.

DHH has been posting specific support for Framework, so maybe Omarchy/Arch is one of the main options.

As a community we shouldn't give Omarchy or DHH any publicity. For both technical [1] and ethical reasons.

[1] https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by mistyvales »

I'm not yet ready to upgrade my old laptop yet, but this could change things. The RAM prices will probably put a damper on that however. Not ready to spend that much money on what will prob drop in a year or two (hopefully not 3).
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