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Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by palmotea »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #695

Yet when he was fired, 99% of OpenAi employees backed him and were ready to resign. That actual event/evidence is more telling than any hit piece article.

> Yet when he was fired, 99% of OpenAi employees backed him and were ready to resign. That actual event/evidence is more telling than any hit piece article.

It's not telling. The article documents a massive pressure campaign to get that result. There are a lot of reasons why OpenAi employees could have publicly backed him, an example is fear, and there are many others that aren't an endorsement of Altman's character.

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kelvinjps10 wrote: post #711
philipallstar wrote: post #580

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How would fraud help here? Don't they just need scale of lots of customers paying a little bit? How do you fraud your way into that?

they don't need customers, when the customers ere each others companies for example the deals openAI nvidia oracle made

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Post by pesus »

frollogaston wrote: post #739
pesus wrote: post #461

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Thank you for sharing this. I 100% believe it, and it lines up with my experience with other people who came from similar backgrounds as Sam Altman - i.e. white, rich, privileged, and attending elite universities. I will disagree with one part - I do believe it is racism. Most will never admit it publicly, but if they think you're one of them, it often comes out rather quickly, especially when alcohol is involved.

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I never claimed that. I am one myself. I'd suggest reading more carefully in the future.

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Post by slibhb »

arionhardison wrote: post #167
edbaskerville wrote: post #131

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Can you give more details? It wouldn't particularly surprise me if Sam Altman were racist, but I'm curious what the specific incident you observed was.

Yes, but first I want to be very clear on some things. 1. I could have hidden my identify behind a throwaway. I did not feel that would be appropriate when making this calim. 2. I am not looking for anything, literally at all. Any follow ups for blogs; anything that would benefit I will not answer. 3. This is NOT a new account, I am very easy to find; I am 6'1 140lbs I was working for a company called NationBuilder a…

I wonder if this stems from Sam getting beat up by a black guy. From the article:

> When Altman was sixteen or seventeen, he said, he was out late in a predominantly gay neighborhood in St. Louis and was subjected to a brutal physical attack and homophobic slurs. Altman did not report the incident, and he was reluctant to give us more details on the record, saying that a fuller telling would “make me look like I’m manipulative or playing for sympathy.”

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Post by pesus »

bakugo wrote: post #563
pesus wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for sharing this. I 100% believe it, and it lines up with my experience with other people who came from similar backgrounds as Sam Altman - i.e. white, rich, privileged, and attending elite universities. I will disagree with one part - I do believe it is racism. Most will never admit it publicly, but if they think you're one of them, it often comes out rather quickly, especially when alcohol is involved.

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> considering you just made a sweeping negative generalization based on race without recognizing it for what it is.

I did no such thing. I'd suggest reading more carefully. Much of that background describes me as well.

> Also, I find it interesting how your list of "backgrounds that define bad people" conveniently omits a specific trait that many tech CEOs of questionable morals share, likely because it doesn't align with your agenda.

Can you elaborate instead of beating around the bush? What exactly do you think "my agenda" is? What "specific trait" are you referring to?

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Post by rglullis »

Lerc wrote: post #778
rglullis wrote: post #639

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> what information would significantly change your views Quite simple: show me any single action took by Sam Altman which can not be construed as an attempt to get him more power/money/influence. You can't find it. The difference between what he claims to believe and what he actually does is a textbook example of sociopathy.

I cannot find a single action of anyone that cannot be construed as an attempt to get them power/money/influence. I can believe that a persons intentions are good, but I can't make everyone in the world do that, and that is what you are asking. "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him" To play your game, he got married, had a child, and…

> I cannot find a single action of anyone that cannot be construed as an attempt to get them power/money/influence

Try the other way around, via negativa. We definitely can find plenty of examples of people stepping out of positions of power, deciding not to do something because of moral conflict, etc. Is there any case of such action from Sam?

Fuck, anyone with any semblance of moral fortitude would refuse to take money from the Saudis. But he had no problem to do it.

> joined an AI research organisation at a time when everybody thought the big advances were much further away than they turned out to be.

No, this is selection bias. What he did was to put himself in a position where he could have his fingers on any and every possible pie, and then when of these things turned out to be something believed to be valuable by people with money, then he manouvered himself to be in the driver seat.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #235

I believe Annie Altman.

Not enough people know about her and her allegations towards him. It’s sad to see so much of the rich and powerful literally just can’t stop raping people. Epstein, Trump, Elon, scam Altman. How many more people have to be implicated?

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Post by philipallstar »

kelvinjps10 wrote: post #711
philipallstar wrote: post #580

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would fraud help here? Don't they just need scale of lots of customers paying a little bit? How do you fraud your way into that?

they don't need customers, when the customers ere each others companies for example the deals openAI nvidia oracle made

That's not fraud, and it's not sustainable. They aren't going to just keep doing that. It only makes sense if an AI company wants to pay for GPUs with stock, and - more importantly - the GPU company agrees to sell in exchange for stock.
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