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Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by socalgal2 »

jamincan wrote: post #734
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #619

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Facebook sucks but Reddit's algorithm is even worse. The only positive thing I will say in favor of Reddit is you can turn their algorithm off as Facebook has consistently denied its users a chronological feed of their friends.

How do other people use reddit? I'm subscribed to a bunch of subreddits and that's the content I see. Reddit is honestly one of the more positive parts of the web for me.

which subreddits do you frequent? My experience of any coding subreddits is lots of posturing, lots of closing, no few actually useful answers or discussion

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by giancarlostoro »

Remember MySpace? It was a platform full of millennials mostly. Facebook became the next thing but if you note teens dont want to be where their parents are, it takes away from their ability to express themselves. Then as they grow they might adopt platforms like Facebook, but Facebook might not find the adoption they are hoping for.

I think there will be a follow up to Tik Tok in the future that will have the next generation as the Zoomers and younger become adults, and their kids want a platform where they fan be “free” on.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by socalgal2 »

decimalenough wrote: post #445
shirro wrote: post #336

The algorithm has been given a job todo. First priority on any platform is engagement and a well functioning, complete human being is not going to be engaged by rage bait and hate. They are rare, precious jewels. The shit gets dumped on people who are lonely, have a grudge, feel left out. It is relentless and escalates until their brains cook. Algorithmic social media is a massive social harm. The people who are in d…

> The shit gets dumped on people who are lonely, have a grudge, feel left out. No, it gets dumped on pretty much everybody. My Insta consists of travel and food pictures, and the people I follow are friends IRL and a very few travel/food influencers. So my feed consists of friends, travel/food content, dirty jokes thanks to my buddy who keeps sending them, and an ever increasing proportion of ads. But both my "sugges…

Does FB have a "following only" option like Instagram?

If it did I'd use it more. As it is, I check FB once a week-ish, see a few too many suggested posts and leave.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by alsetmusic »

wedog6 wrote: post #590
disillusioned wrote: post #532

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Just click search on Instagram and BAM, thirst trap central. Don't have to have ever interacted with ANY of them, liked any of them, or follow anything CLOSE to that content, it's coming for you if you're a male between the ages of 18-99 that, presumably, the algo thinks is straight-leaning. My _feed_ on Instagram is a bit more curated and sticks closer to that curation: weird music stuff, weird instrument stuff, and…

One of the creepiest aspects of this is that the 'thirsty content' is mainly mainly AI-generated pictures by spammers who know what they are doing, but also includes 'correlated' posts by normal users. Eg you have a 15-year-old daughter and post a picture of her smiling in school uniform on Instagram because it's her birthday or something. The algorithm takes that post and shows it to randomly selected men who often…

> The algorithm takes that post and shows it to randomly selected men who often interact with pictures of attractive female teenagers, even though none of your other posts get shared like this outside of your connections.

What evidence suggests this?

I don't use any Meta services and I absolutely hate them and consider them evil. I know they do awful, terrible things and if someone has evidence of this I will believe it given Meta's track record. But this is far enough outside my current understanding of the awful things that they do, or people claim they do, that it needs a source.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by magicalist »

nradov wrote: post #772
mbo wrote: post #202

My mother is an international flight attendant in her 60s. I recently caught a glimpse of her Facebook and I was shocked to discover a version of the website that seemed to be the platonic ideal of exactly what all the Facebook PMs intended. Her feed was filled with the photos of her friends and coworkers international trips and holidays, posts in groups for planning activities in her most frequented cities. But I di…

My Facebook feed is also like that (although with more underwater pictures of fish). It seems fine. I don't think I'm particularly privileged. I honestly don't understand the hate that FB gets here on HN. Maybe some users are just following the wrong accounts?

> I honestly don't understand the hate that FB gets here on HN. Maybe some users are just following the wrong accounts?

Sounds like you do understand the hate but you don't understand how their feeds ended up different than yours?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by arnvald »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #782

Remember MySpace? It was a platform full of millennials mostly. Facebook became the next thing but if you note teens dont want to be where their parents are, it takes away from their ability to express themselves. Then as they grow they might adopt platforms like Facebook, but Facebook might not find the adoption they are hoping for. I think there will be a follow up to Tik Tok in the future that will have the next g…

IMO Facebook has a bigger problem - I’m a millennial, far closer to a middle aged man than to a teenager, and I don’t want to be on Facebook because it’s so full of garbage. There’s just nothing interesting except for Market.

Surely there’ll be a follow up to TikTok and other trendy apps, but Facebook is where I should want to be, and I don’t

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by [deleted] »

mgraczyk wrote: post #768
hackernewds wrote: post #767

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Maybe you are too young to have noticed, but this is how Facebook used to be for every one. Until some a/b testing likely led to short term engagement boosts for news content and that's all you could see - especially during the 2016 news cycle with (allegedly Russian) political ads. Then people stopped posting, and others stopped posting, feedback loop and here we are.

This is lie, I was there and this is not at all what happened

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Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by magicalist »

Aurornis wrote: post #248
pyreko wrote: post #229

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I have this with Twitter surprisingly. I only use it for animal pictures, art, and to follow artists. I usually just use the Following page, but my FYP is always just... animal pictures and art, exactly what I want. No weird right wing shit, no weird crypto shit, no drama or ragebait shit, etc... somehow. I know some day it'll break though.

Same here. The trick is to unfollow people who start posting things you don't want to see in your feed any more. It sounds so simple, but many people treat their following list as an append-only log. I've followed accounts for hobbies that later spiral off into the deep end of Twitter's topics of the day, which is always my sign to unfollow them. Some people cannot resist clicking on things that make them angry, thou…

> Some people cannot resist clicking on things that make them angry, though. These websites continue serving up more of what you click on.

"We're going to keep putting crap in front of you until we find something you click on. And even if you take a breath, don't reply and close it, we now know we have you and we'll keep showing that type of thing to you. Also, even though we're not going to tell you we're doing this, we and our power users are going to blame you for doing it to yourself. lol."

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by socalgal2 »

euleriancon wrote: post #26

I had a similar experience recently, where I logged in to Facebook after not using it for years and was shocked by how much garbage was there. My spouse does use Facebook somewhat regularly so I looked at her feed and it was much more reasonable. I wonder if for those of us that haven't used Facebook in years the recommendation algorithm is essentially default. Which much like the default youtube algorithm, is comple…

It does make me wonder if that system is a net positive or a net negative. For me, I go, see suggested stuff which is all trash, and never want to engage with FB ever again. I stay only because of friends but only check once a week or so. Where as, if they got rid of all suggested stuff and instead it was 100% friends and family and every 5 posts, an ad. I'd engage with it far more often.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by socalgal2 »

JohnMakin wrote: post #187
ryandrake wrote: post #135

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Not just thots but thots with inevitable links to their OnlyFans pages. It seems that FB and Instagram's primary purpose has become funneling people into OnlyFans. I wonder if Zucc has caught on to this and is at least getting some revenue share from OF.

He has testified to congress that IG/meta does not promote sexual content, which is nuts, because anyone who’s spent 5 mins on the platform knows this absolutely not the case

Both can be true. IG/Meta does not promote sexual content. Users promote sexual content. That might be subtle but there is a real distinction.
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