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Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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What could possible go wrong with the government funding media? It’s not like they would take away funding for media that they don’t agree with.

PBS and BBC are both pretty well regarded and receive public funding.

BBC's funding model is in its last 36 months

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> . I'm a hypocrite. I admit Great, admission is the first step. > but the pay is too good to find alternative. Yet then you immediately undo it! Try "I'm too greedy". You're the actor with the free will here. The subject of the sentencd shouldn't be "the pay". That is just an amount, a sum, that exists - neither too high nor too low. That is all in the eye of the beholder.

Give them a break. People want to live a good life. We as a society shouldnt incentivize bad behavior with capital

Engaging in bad and immoral behaviour for capital is still bad and immoral behaviour, particularly when one has other choices.

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Nah, advertisement in general. Just make the internet a paid sub. We don't need influencers or snake oil ads. And without ads and influencers, there is no reason for meta to try to keep people infinitely stuck to their phones. They can get their cut just from a paid sub.

Every website would then become a snake oil salesman for buying their subscription. It'd be like streaming today. Fragmented, expensive, and useless. And no one would like it. Beyond that, websites would still need people to be addicted to justify the sub. And furthermore, "sponsorships" will still occur behind the sub wall.

What was the internet like in the early days before monetization? (Hint: I was there and it was great, albeit slow on dial up =]).

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Here's the actual statement from the European Comission: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_... It's important to note they aren't creating laws against infinite scrolling , but are ruling against addictive design and pointing to infinite scrolling as an example of it. The wording here is fascinating, mainly because they're effectively acting as arbiters of "vibes". They point to certain feat…

>"well what specific laws would I write to combat addictive design?" Hear me out: banning advertising on the Internet. It's the only way. It's the primordial domino tile. You knock that one over, every other tile follows suit. It's the mother of chain reactions. There would be no social media, no Internet as we know it. Imagine having TikTok, YouTube or X trying to survive on subscriptions alone in their current iter…

Wpuldnt it be better just to create a .noad ICANN domain and let see if that gets any traction?

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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It's interesting how there may be an implicit assumption that imposing more rules on tech will lead to positive outcomes. From my perspective, technology is like reality itself: very difficult to control, with countless ways to achieve the desired result while circumventing the rules. And what's the actual result? Just look at the market capitalization of European companies compared to US companies... Or maybe it jus…

> Just look at the market capitalization of European companies compared to US companies...

A huge portion of that market cap exists only because the companies in question are allowed to act unethically. Aside from that, all this wealth is concentrated in the hands of a small minority.

Ultimately the economy exists to serve us, not the other way around. What good all that market cap does for the average American?

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Alright, if you want to be pedantic abuot the definition, then ban compensated advertising.

Seems like you missed the point; banning compensated advertising wouldn’t fix the problem at all.

I don't see why it wouldn't.

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I've built software used by EU governments, and we don't use a cookie banner for our login cookies either. If your legal team genuinely suggests that, it's likely your company uses the login cookies for some additional purposes.

The problem is that I spend hours explaining the actual technical nature of what we're doing to the legal team and I feel that there's often some kind of breakdown in communication because they don't understand the underlying technologies as well as the engineers do. And I haven't had this experience at one company, I've had it at multiple companies, several of which folks in this thread will have heard of. To put a…

That's super interesting, because the lawyers should know that under GDPR, consent needs to be specific.

So a generic cookie banner is actually going to make the legal case worse than not having one at all (because you've now demonstrated that you knew you should have explicitly declared usages, partners, and used opt-in consent, but you didn't).

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