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Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by bjoli »

jama211 wrote: post #313
mzmzmzm wrote: post #203

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I recently switched to iPhone for network reasons, and some UI/UX things are really shocking. There is no way to toggle location services without going into settings. The alarms are tricky to set and don't have niceties like telling you the time until your morning alarm. There is no clipboard history. They want you to use swipe gestures so much, the touch targets to exit fullscreen media are barely functional. If you…

Some of these are design decisions, not rough edges. There’s pros and cons. Eg, centralising settings makes it simpler min some ways and more convoluted in others. That being said clipboard history would be a nice addition. However I never want to see how long until my morning alarm, that’s one thing from android I don’t miss, it would give me immediate anxiety. Regardless when you’re used to something it often doesn…

They dont enforce the centralised settings. That is why it is maddening. Some apps have the settings in the settings app. Some do not.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by sharperguy »

rkuykendall-com wrote: post #766
sharperguy wrote: post #763

"But I came crawling back to iOS because I'm weak and the orange iPhone was pretty and the Pixel 10 was boring and I caved to the blue bubble pressure. But the keyboard on this beautiful phone is worse than ever. " I don't understand. What could Apple possibly have that is better than a working device?

"blue bubble" here is undersold. It means Apple has anti-competitively broken the experience of speaking with loved ones on purpose if you leave their ecosystem.

As a European it's hard for me to comprehend the influence that iMessage has on the US.

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Post by lucketone »

lobf wrote: post #703
leptons wrote: post #376

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It honestly doesn't surprise me. Apple is not some bastion of good design. They are mediocre at best, always have been. It was pretty hilarious to me that for so many years the keyboard on iOS only had CAPITAL letters. No matter the state of the shift key, the letters on the keyboard just stayed the same. After many years they finally figured it out, but it's one example of many about how Apple just doesn't have the…

> They are mediocre at best, always have been. Come on. OSX was a paradigm shift in desktop usability and intuitive design. My 85 year old grandpa asked me about 20 years ago how he should go about learning how to use computers. We were a windows family at home but I was using Macs in school and OSX was relatively new and I thought it blew Windows out of the water as far as usability. Didn’t take long for my grandpa…

So what I’m reading, is they are able to dumb-down the design to fit less tech savvy people.

When tailoring for one audience you usually do tale away something from other audiences.

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Post by leptons »

seec wrote: post #723
leptons wrote: post #470

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lol, no, they sucked even more in the 1980s. Did you ever notice that "About this software" is the first thing on the first menu of every application? Is that because people have to know what version of the software they are using every time they start it? It's still like that today, and it's very very stupid. Other OSs get it right and put the version information on the last menu, where it doesn't clutter up the mos…

The whole window management system is an exercise in contrarianism. They basically chose to do things in the opposite manner of their competitor and mostly against what intuition would dictate for the sole reason of being different. macOS is very frustrating to use without utility apps that provide the necessary improvements. But they are never as well integrated, cost money or are a hassle to set up. Apple just wins…

Apple only "wins" by charging exorbitant prices that idiots are willing to pay to have a digital status symbol. What they have not "won" is market share. They have always been an "also-ran" in market share.

Android (70%) beats iOS (30%). Windows (68%) beats MacOS (13%).

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Post by biztos »

teekert wrote: post #478
ozzyphantom wrote: post #413

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I see where you’re coming from, this was an impulsive creation after months/years of frustration without any expectations. For anyone curious of my experience here are my main pain points: - autocorrect failing to correct minor mistakes - autocorrect “correcting” a mistake with another mistake - autocorrect “correcting” correctly typed words - swipe to type is painfully behind Gboard (third-party keyboards are univer…

My fav is when iOS autocorrect corrects me AFTER pressing send. Be glad you only type in one language and that it is US English (probably) ;)

As long as we are ranting: I have many multilingual converstations. At some point iOS started offering the "German/English" keyboard option. I assume it also does "French/Swahili" or whatever, but for some reason it didn't auto-create a combination for "Hungarian/English" which I use more than German/English.

This sounds like a great idea, but in practice it just autocorrects incorrectly in two languages instead of one. Which is a shame, since even the German government uses a lot of Denglish these days, you'd think it would be trainable.

Meanwhile, when the chat gets stuck in the wrong language, it's a comfort to know that selecting another (or trying to press Shift for that matter) will take me to Keyboard Settings at least 80% of the time. Because who knows when you might need to change those!

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by leptons »

lobf wrote: post #703
leptons wrote: post #376

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It honestly doesn't surprise me. Apple is not some bastion of good design. They are mediocre at best, always have been. It was pretty hilarious to me that for so many years the keyboard on iOS only had CAPITAL letters. No matter the state of the shift key, the letters on the keyboard just stayed the same. After many years they finally figured it out, but it's one example of many about how Apple just doesn't have the…

> They are mediocre at best, always have been. Come on. OSX was a paradigm shift in desktop usability and intuitive design. My 85 year old grandpa asked me about 20 years ago how he should go about learning how to use computers. We were a windows family at home but I was using Macs in school and OSX was relatively new and I thought it blew Windows out of the water as far as usability. Didn’t take long for my grandpa…

>Come on. OSX was a paradigm shift in desktop usability and intuitive design.

OSX was born by moving from a real crap OS that couldn't even multitask property, to slapping the same UX paradigms on a Unix base.

The first release of OSX wasn't meaningfully different from OS9 in UX. They had the same goofy window gadgets for minimizing and maximizing a window, and still couldn't resize a window from any corner/side.

Finder is still just as much garbage as it ever was, nothing has really changed there. "About this software" is still the first thing on the first menu, because of course that's the most important thing a user could do with MacOS software is to look at what version they are using.

There's a reason MacOS has never gone above 15% market share - part of that is the extortionate cost of Apple hardware, as well as their shitty UX.

I will gladly take Windows XP over any version of MacOS.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by qnleigh »

It's so strange, when I switched to Android, it felt like iPhones had more polish and fewer glitches like these. But there's just aren't any usability bugs that I deal with on Android anymore.

I think the blog explains why people put up with such a buggy OS:

> I randomly tried Android again for a few months last spring. Using a functioning keyboard was revelatory. But I came crawling back to iOS because I'm weak and the orange iPhone was pretty

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by soco »

owenthejumper wrote: post #699
soco wrote: post #406

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I can't tell about windows - never used autocorrect there - but GBoard became laughable. I don't think I was able to use its suggestions since a few years. For instance, it will NEVER but really never put a uppercase I when I'm talking about myself. Never. I could select it from suggestions if I feel like, but I kinda gave up (this is written in Windows, that's why you see capital Is). Or my name, used quite often ri…

SwiftKey can handle languages, but it kind of sucks too , lol. It crashes all the time

No it cannot. SwiftKey has exactly two "languages": one is French, the other is German/English/Italian/Romanian. Yes it's a mash of all four, which makes the default swiped word and the suggestions exactly useless. Who the hell thought that was a good idea... only Samsung keyboard offers separate languages as well, but it's kinda worse in suggestions than GBoard.

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Post by duncangh »

zem wrote: post #279
Someone1234 wrote: post #214

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It does make me wonder if Apple's own employees actually dog-food iOS day-to-day. It just seems like, you could stop any iPhone user in the street and ask them "How do you find the keyboard?" And get a consistently negative response, but yet nobody within Apple seemingly has noticed for YEARS. Everyone says iOS 26 did it, but I strongly disagree, I disabled most options in General -> Keyboard like three major iOS ver…

if my experiences at google are any indication, when it comes to "regular user" facing features management pays very little attention to negative feedback from the engineers. it always seems to be assumed that we are atypical in our dislike for things.

This is incredibly resonant

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by smugtrain »

beowulfey wrote: post #749
smugtrain wrote: post #668

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This was not poor design, but a decision to restrict the user from copy pasting entire articles and the like. Most unfair and this iPhone 3G to iPhone 17 Pro user is seriously considering ditching them over select all

where did you hear this?

I’m reading between the lines
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