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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#781

You’re out of your mind if you think I’m gonna upload ID to use a “shitposting about video games with friends” service.

I’ll vibe code that sh*t in a sitting

Please do and write about it, whether it goes well or not.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#782

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#784

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

I canceled that shit years ago.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#785

IIRC EU was going for a zero-knowledge-proof of age system, but I guess discord isn't going to be using that then. (I don't think the ZKP system is available yet) (here's part of it: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-rel... )

This is the true solution that gets the best of all worlds. The tech is just too immature still but this will change soon I hope.

For those curious, check out zkPassport (https://zkpassport.id/)

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#786

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Zulip is amazing, thanks bro.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#787

I will go against the grain and say that I am happy that Discord is doing something about the NSFW content that is being fed to children on its platform. I don't use Discord that much personally but I heard from friends that it is a goto for NSFW content, similar to reddit. Every time the topic of ID for 18+ content comes up, the entire internet melts down over "big brother" and "privacy", yet no one flinches at pres…

I think the issue here is that companies (and govs) are choosing the worst possible solitions to a real problem because it benefits them. Gov wants it for control, companies want it to sell ads and mine data. They team up, and screw everyone over while overlooking other viable solitions

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#788

Forget cancelling my Nitro - what's the best way to convince my friends to cancel theirs?

Not being there. Tell them you'll be at ____ when they need you.

What ____ is, that's the problem. There's no self-hostable option that has easy audio/video like Discord does.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#789

It's kind of surprising that no-one has really come out with a proper privacy-preserving approach to this yet. It is clearly _possible_; there are reasonable-looking designs for this. But no-one's doing it; they're just collecting photos and IDs, and then leaking them all over the place.

mDLs support selective disclosure of age.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Ignoring the implications of this for the moment, let me broach a related (and arguably more important) question: what do you do when you have multiple communities you interact with only on one platform, and suddenly that platform becomes intolerable for a subset of your community?

It is the same as what everyone did after the reddit fiasco i.e. protest, boycott, grudgingly use it while complaining and then finally accept the change. May be this discord episode will have better outcome for the masses.

Platforms lose momentum when these events strike, and momentum loss is the death knell for social platforms. Reddit's missteps have put it on a downward spiral. They may hang on, even for an impressively long time, but recovery from this point is very difficult and usually involves transforming or re-forming the vision.

It can be done. It takes the right leaders. Most are unfit for this particular challenge.

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