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Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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Post by Art9681 »

overfeed wrote: post #510
mym1990 wrote: post #145

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Its baffling that you think the collapse of the USD would have no negative ramifications on the rest of the world...

> Its baffling that you think the collapse of the USD would have no negative ramifications on the rest of the world. Empires rise and fall, pax Americana was not the world's first hegemony. The end of the British Empire is within living memory - while they sowed seeds of instability in a handful of former colonies that still flare up today, the rest of the world is fine. Britain, on the other hand, has had to enter a…

The world wasn't globalized then. It's quite literally, an entire new world today. The collapse of the US will touch every corner of the world.

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Post by Art9681 »

staplers wrote: post #607
mym1990 wrote: post #564

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You seem to have a very limited view of the world if you think the US doesn't have fans of totalitarian rule and that the "rest of the world" is exclusively against US global strategy. I am going to guess that you actually have no idea what the negative ramifications of the collapse of a currency that underpins the foundations of our world are, because it is something that is near impossible to predict. I agree that…

the US will somehow fall in a vacuum and everyone else will live happily ever after is laughable. If enough countries collectively decide to not export to the US, it's game over. See Cuba as an example. Not everything is a movie with a final battle. Alternatives are found and adopted all the time without violent strife.

A reminder the insatiable appetite of the American consumer is a big part of what props up a lot of other economies.

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Post by staticman2 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #133
whimsicalism wrote: post #126

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I’m curious when people make comments like this, do they actually live in the US and believe this or has the media environment gotten so bad in Europe+ that people have no clue what’s real or not?

Maybe you'd trust Blackrock's CEO instead? I live in the US and I have rotated away from US equities and treasuries to derisk from volatility of poor governance (both this administration and long term fiscal policy). BlackRock CEO delivers blunt warning on US national debt - https://www.thestreet.com/investing/blackrock-ceo-delivers-b... - January 18th, 2026 The U.S. Deficit Will 'Overwhelm This Country': BlackRock C…

I'm not gonna watch a video but did you even read that article before you linked to it?

"Fink is still a big believer in the U.S. economy and argues things are looking mostly constructive at this point. He feels the bull story is still intact, but its durability matters a lot more."

It's the human equivilent of AI slop.

Re: Danish pension fund divesting US Treasuries

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Post by rayiner »

jacquesm wrote: post #628
rayiner wrote: post #579

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> I've seen you hand wave this away (because of course you would) suggesting the US was rich already. How is it "hand waving?" Whether or not the U.S. has gained "long-term economic advantages" from its leadership of NATO is a key factual question. It's the central premise of your paragraph about "pax Americana." You can't simply assume that fact is true. The relative gaps in GDP per capita between the U.S., Denmark…

Let's just quote you then, for avoidance of doubt: "Denmark isn’t an “ally.” An alliance is a mutual relationship. Denmark offers the U.S. nothing. " You either wrote that or someone temporarily borrowed your laptop but as far as I can see there are no third options. Unless of course you have some creative definition of what you consider to be an ally but until only a short while ago the EU was given a pretty concise…

I’m sorry for using figurative language on the internet where Dutch people are around. The full relevant part is below:

> Denmark isn’t an “ally.” An alliance is a mutual relationship. Denmark offers the U.S. nothing. It’s a country the size of Maryland…

In the construction “it’s not an X, it’s a Y,” X and Y are read in contrast to each other. Denmark isn’t an “ally” in the sense that it can’t offer meaningful aid to the U.S. in a war because it’s a tiny country. Obviously Denmark is an “ally” in the legal sense that we’re both part of NATO.

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Post by Braxton1980 »

epistasis wrote: post #627
everyone wrote: post #618

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The people of the USA really remind me of the people of Russia: totally depoliticized. I think in the USA many people are really focused on a pointless culture war yet aren't politically active at all.

I think it's not so much the people that have been Russified as the institutions themselves. The media, big law firms, big corporations, have all given in to bullying and handed their power over to the authoritarian. Universities are on the cusp of doing so too. Even the Democratic Party has leadership so weak that in the current environment they will only talk about affordability and healthcare. The media the public…

>Even the Democratic Party has leadership so weak that in the current environment they will only talk about affordability and healthcare.

As opposed to what? The majority of people took away their power either by not voting for them or not voting at all.

Multiple universities have refused Trump's demands and Newsom even threatened universities in his state if they went along with it.

Democrats speak out about everything Trump is doing. They also worked with some Republicans recently on bills that Trump is against.

So please tell me how they are at fault?

Because it seems they are at fault when they are in power and they are at fault for Republicans when they are in power.

You're also generalizing the media. It's nearly impossible they are equally manipulative.

Since no political party will be perfect we should vote for the best option

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Post by bluGill »

DangitBobby wrote: post #780
bluGill wrote: post #773

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Your position is they are not extreem. Mine is that what we call left is already too extreem. However what the 'right' wants is different but mostly not in the direction I want to go.

A minority of people in the developed world would agree with your assessment that the American left is "extreme". It's mostly American "centrists" and conservatives that think so.

Again though, the original point is that left/right assumes there are extremes. All you have said is that in the rest of the world the "left" is more extreme.

If that extreme is good or not is a mostly a value judgement - there is no right or wrong answer. There are consequences to what answer you pick though.

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Post by lateforwork »

egl2020 wrote: post #649
anabab wrote: post #255

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Ah, it is all Mercator's fault

Mercator projection aside, Greenland is not tiny. The ice-free area is about as big as California. If you include the icy areas, it's bigger than any U.S. state.

There must be a reason only 50K people live there. It is not a fun place to live. The only purpose that would be achieved by acquiring Greenland is making the US look bigger on a map.

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Post by DangitBobby »

_zagj wrote: post #664
jacquesm wrote: post #216

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This is not a one sided thing. The US has been allowed to do a lot of things under the NATO umbrella that it benefited from (such as: selling a vast quantity of arms). Soft power is a thing and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization came into being to deal with exactly the kind of situation that we are viewing today. To see the US bow out, and in fact threatening allies is duplicitous at best.

> Soft power is a thing This is the usual claptrap Euros and Eurosimps come up with when Americans gripe about subsidizing Europe's defense. "Soft power" isn't putting money back in Americans' pockets, and the primary beneficiaries of NATO clearly didn't like us very much even before Trump's return, when Biden was still president and the aid flowed freely to Kyiv: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/06/11/views-o…

Apart from it just being morally and ethically righteous for rich countries to share their wealth globally, American "soft power" serves as a gesture of good will to the world so they will tolerate a strong dollar (so we get to play global economics on easy mode) and American hegemony generally. When we stop exercising "soft power" everyone will just resent our relative comfort and suddenly decide they aren't okay with us being on the throne anymore. And we'll find ourselves playing on hard mode because we'll be iced out from global trade.

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Post by DangitBobby »

bluGill wrote: post #786
DangitBobby wrote: post #780

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A minority of people in the developed world would agree with your assessment that the American left is "extreme". It's mostly American "centrists" and conservatives that think so.

Again though, the original point is that left/right assumes there are extremes. All you have said is that in the rest of the world the "left" is more extreme. If that extreme is good or not is a mostly a value judgement - there is no right or wrong answer. There are consequences to what answer you pick though.

The thing about extremes is you can make anything so by choosing a reference point. My reference is from the centerpoint of most prosperous and educated countries, because those are most likely to be ones with good ideas to be emulated. All decision we make are based on value judgements. Obviously there's no way to know what the most sensible thing is but in absence of perfect heuristics, "what other successful countries think" seems like a good one.

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Post by triceratops »

xienze wrote: post #769
triceratops wrote: post #708

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You're confirming what I said earlier. There are both happy and unhappy "homogenous" countries. There's literally no correlation. Instead of stopping there you're regurgitating, and it's unfortunate I'm confirming Poe's law, Mein Kampf . > The US was 85-90% white in 1965. That's pretty homogenous. I think you know nothing about culture, ethnicity, or the history of bigotry, xenophobia, and racism in the US if you can…

> There are both happy and unhappy "homogenous" countries. There's literally no correlation. There’s multiple components to what “happiness” entails. One might argue that a society filled with numerous cultures and ethnicities all vying for their own interests can make for quite a bit of unhappiness. E.g., if everyone was white, there’d be no hand-wringing over white supremacy. If everyone was straight, there’d be no…

> E.g., if everyone was white, there’d be no hand-wringing over white supremacy... Don’t be dense just to make a point.

You think people didn't find other ways to dislike each other when they were all "white"? Like I already said you don't know history very well or you're the one being "dense to make a point".

> If it’s a valid classification today why can’t we use the same term retrospectively?

I can't speak for today or say if it's valid. But that's not how things were back then because the people themselves didn't believe that. You've never heard the slurs people used for different ethnic and religious groups that all hailed from Europe and had light skin? The amount of "hand-wringing" about JFK being the first non-Protestant president? There was no feeling of "homogeneity" back then either based solely on skin color.

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