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Re: Linux is good now

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Post by MegaDeKay »

cogman10 wrote: post #708
mcv wrote: post #586

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Why don't TVs support displayport? If HDMI 2.1 support is limited, a TV with displayport sounds like an obvious choice. I thought audio might be the reason, for as far as I can tell, displayport supports that too.

Legacy is a bitch. It took a long time to move from the old component input over to HDMI. The main thing that drove it was the SD to HD change. You needed HDMI to do 1080p (I believe, IDK that component ever supported that high of a resolution). Moving from HDMI to display port is going to be the same issue. People already have all their favorite HDMI devices plugged in and setup for their TVs. You need a feature tha…

The legacy issue is even worse than that. I have a very new Onkyo RZ30 receiver and it is all HDMI with no DisplayPort to be seen. So it is the whole ecosystem including the TV that would need to switch to DP support.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by eldaisfish »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #618
mixxit wrote: post #611

Deluding ourselves here it's nice to think the day has finally arrived but it hasn't We need to address the problems rather than pretending it's already great Shutting down your laptop and having to wait five minutes for systemd to shutdown because of some timeout when you need to get your flight is just one of those reasons you end up going back to windows

Apart from systemd, tell me what isn't great. The whole benefit of the ecosystem is that you can pick and choose your system components and if you don't like any of then, build your own. I am not trying to be dismissive, if I use a windows these days, it is for work and some errant vm to run windows specific app ( hr block comes to mind -- I am just not willing to spend time to run it any other way ).

i don't want to pick and choose or build my own. I want something that works.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by MegaDeKay »

pqtyw wrote: post #591
mcv wrote: post #586

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Why don't TVs support displayport? If HDMI 2.1 support is limited, a TV with displayport sounds like an obvious choice. I thought audio might be the reason, for as far as I can tell, displayport supports that too.

I think it's not really an issue for 95-99% of users who uses devices with non open source drivers so there is no incentive for manufacturers to add it?

Tell Valve that it isn't an issue. They have built in hardware support for HDMI 2.1 on the new Steam Machine but can't support it in software.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by sgc »

Edman274 wrote: post #755
sgc wrote: post #739

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I had my 80 year old mom on Linux Mint for 15 years, from about 62-78, and she didn't even know it. She tried to show me her Windows with exactly one problem 15 years in, and I was present with the Mint boot screen. Problem at that point was her laptop, not Mint. Grandmas tend to do very simple things, and the OS can just chug along forever without problems.

Okay, people say this. Could you please, and this is not a rhetorical device, it's a sincere question: how do you keep the browser updated without updating the operating system? Or if you are updating the os, doesn't that change the user interface? And if the user interface is changing, doesn't that confuse your grandmother? I installed Ubuntu for my mom and after four years Firefox was out of date, and the website f…

I haven't dealt with this for her in a few years, but basically:

Pin all their apps in favorites and they will persist through updates. Updates don't overwrite desktop shortcuts either (although like other os, a couple might be added that need to be removed). This might be more difficult in gnome, I wouldn't know since I am firmly in the kde camp.

To stay as up to date as possible, use the mozilla apt repo:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w...

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by wavemode »

sowbug wrote: post #138
GnarfGnarf wrote: post #43

I'm a Windows/macOS developer, but I strongly feel that all national governments need to convert to Linux, for strategic sovereignty. (My customer demographic is seniors & casual users).

Curious: do enterprises using Windows suffer through all the system-level ads and nagware? Or do they get a version that lets their employees actually focus on work instead of learning the many reasons they should consider switching back to Edge?

I run Win11 LTSC and the OS largely just stays out of my way.

In fact when I read threads like this complaining about Windows, I have to remind myself that most people aren't running LTSC.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by RamRodification »

Parae wrote: post #737
utopiah wrote: post #556

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> Baldur's Gate 3 Linux build is a slideshow on Nvidia cards Not at all my experience which makes me question the rest. Also https://www.protondb.com/app/1086940 most people seem quite happy with it so it's not a "me" problem. Finally the "10-30% drop in average FPS across the board" might be correct, then so what? I understand a LOT of gamers want to have "the best" performance for what they paid good money for but…

> pretty much NO game becomes less fun with even a 30% FPS drop I mostly play fighting games. A 7% drop in FPS is more than enough to break the whole game experience as combo rely on frame data. For example Street Fighter 6 is locked at 60 fps. A low punch needs 4 frames to launch and leaves a 4-frames window to land another hit. If there was a 7% drop in FPS, you would miss your combo. Even the tiniest drop in FPS m…

> It's a complete dealbreaker for competitive play

Very true, and this is the biggest issue for me when it comes to gaming on Linux. And it's not just raw FPS count. You can usually brute force your way around that with better hardware. (I'm guessing you could probably get a locked 60 in Street Fighter 6 even with a 30% performance loss?). It's things like input lag and stutter, which in my experience is almost impossible to resolve.

If it weren't for competitive shooters, I could probably go all Linux. But for now I still need to switch over to Windows for that.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by episode404 »

tsss wrote: post #769

No, it really isn't. I use Ubuntu daily and not a month passes without a serious issue that no normal user would be able to solve. Last week my desktop completely froze again (as it often does) and Linux broke a mounted NTFS partition when I shut off the power.

Thank you for being honest. This is exactly my experience as well.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by wongarsu »

swiftcoder wrote: post #671
stavros wrote: post #632

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I think the GP means because the game is a time sink, but you raise an interesting point. I wanted to say "that'll never happen", but someone could fork Linux, add DRM, and then that becomes massively popular and we're done.

> someone could fork Linux, add DRM Realistically, that's only going to happen if Valve, specifically, decides to do it. There isn't really another player in the linux-gaming business with enough skin in the game to make it worthwhile.

I could imagine Epic Games trying to keep the Epic Games Store relevant by making a SteamOS competitor, with the idea of attracting developers with strong kernel-level DRM and anti-cheat

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by howdyhowdy123 »

class3shock wrote: post #187
howdyhowdy123 wrote: post #72

Can I run Solidworks on Linux yet? Excel? Labview? Vivado? Adobe products? Altium Designer? (Matlab is mostly yes) Not everybody is just writing Javascript and PHP. Can I get a laptop to sleep after closing the lid yet? Not that long ago the answer to these questions was mostly no (or sort of yes... but very painfully) On Windows all of this just works.

Still no big CAD names that I'm aware of (annoyingly), Libre Calc works fine for me as an Excel alternative, I have used Matlab on it but not recently, not sure on the others. Laptop sleep and suspend can still be finicky unfortunately. I will say my experience using CAD or other CAE software on windows has gotten progressively worse over the years to the point that FEA is more stable on linux than on windows. We do…

At least OnShape should work. I haven't tried it.

Re: Linux is good now

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Post by howdyhowdy123 »

wright-goes wrote: post #449
howdyhowdy123 wrote: post #72

Can I run Solidworks on Linux yet? Excel? Labview? Vivado? Adobe products? Altium Designer? (Matlab is mostly yes) Not everybody is just writing Javascript and PHP. Can I get a laptop to sleep after closing the lid yet? Not that long ago the answer to these questions was mostly no (or sort of yes... but very painfully) On Windows all of this just works.

I hear you, and also value Excel and a few other products, but I hit my perosnal limit with Windows enshittificatoion early last year and changed my daily driver at home to Linux. I added a couple VMs running windows, linux, and whatever else I need in proxmox w/ xrdp/rdp and remina, and it's really the best of both worlds. I travel a good deal and being able to remotely connect and pick up where I left off while als…

I may give it a try... again.
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