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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by gchamonlive »

mkozlows wrote: post #716
gchamonlive wrote: post #690

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The problem is that comparing to all the monitors I have, specifically the one in my Lenovo Yoga OLED that is supposed to be very accurate, whites are very warm in filmmaker mode. What's that about?

Your monitor is probably set to the wrong settings for film content. Almost all monitors are set to a cool white point out of the box. If you're not producing film or color calibrated photography on your monitor, there is no standard white temperature for PC displays.

The Lenovo has an official ICC profiler, so I think that's unlikely.

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

neom wrote: post #509

I know this sounds extreme but I get actually angry/frustrated and often just can't watch peoples TVs. I don't watch TV myself but if I go to someones house and they have the TV on and it's one of those "enhanced" TVs, it boils my blood. I went to film school, I have emmy's, I've watched hours long conversations about frame rates and dynamic range choices and so many aspects of the creative process that the TV then..…

Honestly, it used to be worse. I remember when 16:9 TVs were new, people would often stretch the aspect ratio of 4:3 content because they "don't like the black bars."

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

layer8 wrote: post #129
bombcar wrote: post #114

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I really wish they had to advertise streams at bitrate and not resolution.

Bitrate still won’t tell you how bad the encoding is. There can be dramatic differences at the same or inverse bitrate.

This is true for amateurs encoding video files to be pirated, but for the mega corps, sending more bits costs more money.

Many years ago, I had a couple drinks with a guy from Netflix who worked on their video compression processes, and he fully convinced me they're squeezing every last drop out of every bit they send down the pipes. The quality is not great compared to some other streaming services, but it's actually kind of amazing how they're able to get away with serving such tiny files.

Anyway, I think we can expect these companies to mostly max out the resultant video quality of their bitstreams, and showing the average bitrate of their pricing tiers would be a great yardstick for consumers.

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Post by watwut »

redox99 wrote: post #599
watwut wrote: post #547

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In the real life, I can underastand exhausted people or dialog in a kitchen full of background noise. If we cant do the same in the movie, sound is just badly mixed. It is not the story setup and it is not "realistic".

> In the real life, I can underastand exhausted people or dialog in a kitchen full of background noise. Because in real life you don't listen through an internal TV speaker, duh.

These are hard to impossible to understand with basically any normal TV setup.

That being said, people listening to TV through TV is 100% predictable. If we cant understand, the mix is not "realistic", it is "badly done".

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Post by Gormo »

drdec wrote: post #481
lotsofpulp wrote: post #441

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Costco’s whole thing is selling larger quantities, most times at a lower per unit price than other retailers such as Walmart. Walmart’s wholesale competitor to Costco is Sam’s Club. Also, Costco’s price labels always show the per unit price of the product (as do Walmart’s, in my experience).

Showing a unit price on the label is a requirement of US law.

I don't think that's correct. Prices for retail goods aren't usually even attached to the product in interstate commerce, and are shown locally on store shelving.

Any applicable unit pricing requirements would be at the state/local level, not federal, but only a few states have such requirements. See: https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/national-legal-metrology/us-ret...

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Post by 01100011 »

ragazzina wrote: post #316
01100011 wrote: post #138

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All of the characters are constantly arguing with each other. The story line requires constant suspension of belief based on the endless succession of improbable events and improbable character behaviors. Contradictions with earlier episodes and even details within the same episode. It's really bad. I hope the final episode redeems it but I have my doubts. I want to have an LLM rewrite season 5 and see how much it im…

Can you give an example of a contradiction within the same episode?

Idk, the grey goo for instance. It melts steel and concrete but not people and killed soldiers but not main characters.

There are also stupid leaps of faith like Holly's mom hobbling out of bed and sticking an oxygen tank in a clothes dryer(as if that would even do anything)...

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Post by satvikpendem »

nwellinghoff wrote: post #108

He is absolutely right. The soap opera effect totally ruins the look of most movies. I still use a good old 1080p plasma on default. It always looks good

It's funny, people complain about this but I actually like smooth panning scenes over juddery ones that give me a headache trying to watch them. I go so far as to use software on my computer called SVP 4 that does this but in a way better GPU accelerated implementation. I'm never sure why people think smoothness means cheapness except that they were conditioned to it.

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Post by satvikpendem »

0-_-0 wrote: post #238
eterevsky wrote: post #228

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James Cameron is one of the few who do this.

But the high FPS version is only in cinemas

Avatar is really only worth watching in 3D in theaters anyway, the story is nothing special if you need to sit through it for 3.5 hours at home.

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Post by satvikpendem »

eviks wrote: post #148

Are there any creators that evolved and shoot at high frame rates that eliminate the need for motion interpolation and its artifacts or is the grip of the bad old film culture still too strong? (there are at least some 48fps films)

Unfortunately not, there is a list on Wikipedia but it seems only Ang Lee is really interested in HFR films

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Post by pezezin »

11mariom wrote: post #756
pezezin wrote: post #90

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English is my second language and I always though my lack of understanding was a skill issue. Then I noticed that native speakers also complain. Then I started to watch YouTube channels, live TV and old movies, and I found out I could understand almost everything! (depending on the dialect) When even native speakers can't properly enjoy modern movies and TV shows, you know that something is very wrong...

I have other way around ;) In Poland our original productions have so badly mixed sound that in almost none series in my native language I cannot understand without captions. But the upside of it is - with English being my second language - I understand most of movies/series I watched.

That's interesting. I have heard many people complaining about the sound mix in modern Spanish productions, but I never have problems understanding them. Shows from LATAM are another topic though, some accents are really difficult for us.
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