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lofaszvanitt wrote: post #283
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean this to be as insulting as it may, but the UK government trying to police US businesses has always felt like a toddler trying to ground his mom.

You are missing the point. US has a lot of harmful cultural exports and one of them is streaming, where people degrade and humiliate themselves for money and the like. Then there is yt shorts, then 4chan, then social media. These slowly degrade societies, like it or not. At least someone tries to do something to weed out the utter, batshit crazy adults, actually childminded idiots, who think the world is their playgr…

I agree and other countries (as well as the US) should educate their children so they are prepared and don't fall into that trap of brainrot consumption.

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ricudis wrote: post #709
jolmg wrote: post #694

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If it's just the outbound Singaporeans, that would be different because they'd at least have the citizenship to claim jurisdiction on.

They're warning everybody, not just Singaporeans. It's just that Singaporeans are the most likely to go travel abroad, have some fun, and then come back like nothing has happened. But if somebody inbound gets caught in a random drug test at the airport (they do that), he's going to be prosecuted just the same no matter their citizenship. There were several (in-)famous examples of this happening.

A positive drug test at the border is quite different from being prosecuted for taking drugs in another country.

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NicuCalcea wrote: post #780
grayhatter wrote: post #778

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> My argument is that the UK is within its rights to implement and enforce laws as they see fit, not that the laws are good. The argument you are making, is that the laws, and the behavior they're enabling is reasonable. That may not what you meant to convey, but to abuse an analogy, it is fruit from the poisoned tree. You can't defend some action, without by proxy defending the source. Either the law is reasonable,…

> The argument you are making, is that the laws, and the behavior they're enabling is reasonable. I am doing no such thing.

I don't think you're aware of what you're communicating then. Because that is exactly what comes from defending them, and you are defending them.

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Vespasian wrote: post #368
michaelt wrote: post #263

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On the other hand, the limited size of the British market limits Parliament’s ability to pressure foreign companies. China may be able to bully Apple into letting it snoop on its citizens’ icloud backups, but when the UK wants the same illiberal snooping powers, with 10% the population it’s 90% easier to walk away.

It's quite ironic that they would have an easier time enforcing that if they were still part of the EU and could have been the deciding factor towards more regulation faster. The EU is big and rich enough to force Big Tech into submission under threat of loosing the market.

Well, it's not ironic. That's one of the main reason why countries form coalition: to increase their collective bargaining power globally.

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kjellsbells wrote: post #344
riazrizvi wrote: post #175

More odious nannying by silly civil servants. If Britain is to restore cultural leadership it needs to move policy away from this horrible trend of policing what people say and think, and focus its energy on better policing what people do.

Important correction: s/civil servants/lawmakers/g Civil servants didn't create, write, or pass the law. They simply got handed a flaming, bad smelling paper bag and got told to implement it.

Civil servants aren't slaves. At the very least they have the option to quit.

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cyanydeez wrote: post #637
riazrizvi wrote: post #628

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I’ve come to align with Trump’s right wing politics, based on their direct announcements on Youtube and policy decisions. What they are doing makes economic and strategic sense. I have also come to see the general hostility as emanating from people who are fed deranged distortions on the Trump admin’s decisions, likely fostered by narrow business interests and foreign entities who don’t care about the plight of Ameri…

Aure, i also have vbrain damage that aligna and cherry pivkd what i like

You seem to be suffering from a stroke - seek medical attention immediately.

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wtcactus wrote: post #611
cyanydeez wrote: post #336

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Unfortunately, Britain, like America, is seized by the worst of both worlds because conservatives and business interests have captured the electorate and narrowly agree on authoritarian nonsense.

Britain is ruled by a far left government.

Left and right doesn't really matter - all western politicians do what benefits the rich at the expense of everyone else. If they didn't they wouldn't even make it on the poll.

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gchamonlive wrote: post #241
riazrizvi wrote: post #175

More odious nannying by silly civil servants. If Britain is to restore cultural leadership it needs to move policy away from this horrible trend of policing what people say and think, and focus its energy on better policing what people do.

On the one hand if you police what people say and think you risk moderation being weponized into censorship. On the other hand if you don't you risk big corp weaponizing free speech into misinformation. It's not a simple problem to solve, and it's not like having one problem is better than the other, because both devolve outside the boundaries of democracy.

Misinformation has to be the dystopian word of the decade. Scary how many eat that up.

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simmerup wrote: post #567
antisol wrote: post #98

This reminds me of when Australia tried to force twitter to block a video globally: https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/elon-musk-wins-latest-c... In one of the more enlightened things Elon has done in the last few years, he fought back, and he won. Interestingly, here in AU, there was a storm of media outrage at the time, saying all kinds of nasty things about Musk, making all kinds of assertions about how he was s…

Hopefully the machinery of various governments will continue to grind away at silicons valleys influence.

Be careful what you wish for.

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rbanffy wrote: post #640
whimsicalism wrote: post #161

I think that because the UK speaks english, they’ve come to believe they somehow have similar levels of extraterritorial power as the US. Just a general symptom of way too many people consuming US media/political content.

The extraterritorial power of the US has no legal basis on the jurisdictions it's exerted.

What legal basis do you think it could possibly have? There is no world government telling countries what they can and cannot do to each other.
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