I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza
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Yes, I will. I will not vote for anyone who supports Israel. My vote is here for the taking, I just need to see an anti-Zionist candidate.
You must vote, but I wont fault anyone for voting 3rd party (or leaving a blank ballot, if you must). Voting 3rd party sends a message: "be more like this 3rd party if you want my vote". Not voting also sends a message: "I wont show up and vote, so just ignore me".
That's not true at all. Even Alexis de Tocqueville discussed the value in not voting. It takes away the mandate from politicians. I don't think we live in a real democracy and I'm not giving legitimacy to fake, fully-Zionist elections. Direct action is much more effective and at some point our government will dissolve if the vast majority of people exit the optics of fake democracy.
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#783Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I will. I will not vote for anyone who supports Israel. My vote is here for the taking, I just need to see an anti-Zionist candidate.
Then you're privileging your own sense of moral purity over the welfare of the Palestinians. The situation is manifestly worse for them now, as was predictable. I hope the cleanliness of your hands makes that bearable.
I'm sure the tens of thousands of Palestinians killed by "your team" would beg to differ. I don't vote for genocide, full stop. I also don't vote for Zionists. What's more important to democrats, Israel or winning elections?
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i saw this comment before going to take a look, but scrolling down from the top, the page seems to all be character assasination about Francesca Albanese and not disputing facts. you can look for yourself - its the same as the "its funded by lunatics" comment, just swapping which lunatics. if they've got arguments, they arent putting them forward as what they consider the most important.
Can't reply to the other guy.
The report states on the first page "most likely pro-Hamas lobby groups in those countries", very conclusive indeed.
The supposedly pro Hamas groups: The Australian Friends of Palestine Association and Australia Palestine Advocacy Network, as well as the Free Palestine Melbourne and Palestinian Christians in Australia.
Just regular old "its antisemitism" to say that Israel shouldn't be killing so many civilians. Hasbara has become so bad its laughable that they think this is a website worth taking seriously, or it would be if they were using Hasbara to keep killing civilians.
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#785The term "genocide" isn't tossed around lightly in international law. The fact that the UN commission is now saying they found "fully conclusive evidence" of genocidal intent by Israel's leadership is going to put massive pressure on other states, especially those who've been backing Israel diplomatically or militarily
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#786Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart. PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list…
Thanks for the heads up on this. I've been a fan of PG's since reading the plan for spam essay in high school, and was a very early reddit user after he boosted it (join date Nov 2005). I have several friends who did YC at various points and was always a bit bummed that my career/life took a different direction and I didn't get the chance.
Anyway, I appreciate seeing his humanity on this, and in particular that he's not down the same hole of moral bankruptcy as Zuck, Thiel, Musk, and others in the SV ruling class.
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#787I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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Think whatever you want. The tide of public opinion is turning against Israel and their American benefactors.
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#788Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza
#789I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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This is so far beyond self defense. Where do you draw the line? Does Israel have to rape or blow up every single person in the Gaza Strip before it’s “too far” in your book?
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Is there a specific report arguing that Israel is not committing genocide? I don’t see it on the home page.
The purpose of a tool like unwatch is to disseminate information to help zionists pollute discussions like these. They dont care about being right, or contributing information to the discussion, as much as they want to hand out gotchas, whatabouts, ad homs and so forth. Thats why its all just character assassination.
labeling information as pollution is sort of a red flag for me. I see this tactic used often, and its often followed up with accusations that don't even address the information labelled as pollution. now don't get me wrong, this tactic does work, it won trump two terms didn't it? I guess its just sort of a red flag for me as I'm not a trump fan. at least you didn't call it "fake news" so have an upvote, I'll take progress where I can get it lol