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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by mrheosuper »

rchaud wrote: post #523
himeexcelanta wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Android for many years. I got to the point where I didn’t care about or want to customize my phone anymore. I was tired of my Android phone feeling like it was falling apart after a year. I have enough things to think about, troubleshoot, and tinker with…I don’t need my phone to add to that list.

Which phone brand did you use where it was falling apart after a year? The rest of your comment sounds like you're saying you preferred the iPhone because it takes the option of customizability away from you entirely, instead of simply sticking to the level of customization on Android that worked for you.

for my case, my S21U's back literally fall apart, not the battery issue, the glue just simply gave up

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by mrheosuper »

starky wrote: post #778
fariszr wrote: post #540

Unfortunately these new phones don't fix the main issue with the Pixel: the hardware. The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This affects everything, pixels just don't last nor have great battery life for this reason.And the big issue is they aren't even much cheaper anymore. I like GrapheneOS, but my pixel just randomly stopped wor…

>The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This is the one thing I don't understand. How many people actually need the top end SoCs that other flagships come with. Phones have been more than fast enough for a long time now. Other than playing some games with tough visuals mid range SoCs are still more than powerful enough. Complaints a…

race to idle, if your soc has the same power consumption, you want to finish the job as soon as you can and go to sleep.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by andybak »

monkeyelite wrote: post #681
andybak wrote: post #207

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The left/right brain thing is pseudo-science and even worse - a false dichotomy. It's much more about cultural snobbery and cultural tribalism around which pursuits are regarded as "more worthy". Look up C.P. Snow's "The Two Cultures" - it was incredibly influential at the time but also described a prejudice we still labour under. It's pervasive in the English speaking world. I suspect less so in the non-anglosphere…

> The left/right brain thing is pseudo-science It's real in terms of consciousness - brains switch between modes depending on activity. You can try it and feel the switch yourself. Whether that switch is localized, or whether people have more affinity for one than the other is probably what's fake.

I think we're talking about different things. I'm referring to the "logical vs intuitive" character type distinction.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by SweetSoftPillow »

dmd wrote: post #105
JoshTriplett wrote: post #72

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> If I'm going to the cinema or baseball or any other event... I don't have it in any calendar. If I don't have it in my calendar, it doesn't happen. I would fail to actually go to the event otherwise.

I'm calendar-driven to such an extent that I joke that all it would take to murder me would be to insert "jump off a cliff" in my calendar.

I never use a calendar; most days, I don't even know what day it is. So, your approach is very interesting to me. Could you please tell me more about what your day looks like on the calendar? How detailed is it, and do you do this even on holidays?

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by theshrike79 »

cbsmith wrote: post #109
giancarlostoro wrote: post #96

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I think on-device models will be the breaking point for AI. Nobody wants to pay for a trillion dollar cloud bill. We've made consumers think that the only way you're paying for software is if you have to buy hardware that comes with it. If you want AI to truly blow up, make it run on potatoes. It doesnt have to do EVERYTHING, just specific needs. That said, what is with Android phones and their back cameras? They loo…

> Nobody wants to pay for a trillion dollar cloud bill. Buying dedicated hardware as a way to keep your AI bill down seems like a tough proposition for your average consumer. Unless you're using AI constantly, renting AI capacity when you need it is just going to be cheaper. The win with the on-device model is you don't have to go out to the network in the first place.

The "dedicated hardware" will be an Apple TV in the Apple ecosystem for example if something centralised is needed.

Or just your phone or laptop. Fully local, nothing leaves the device.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

nicoburns wrote: post #578
StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #467

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Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? Because from where I stand they do load everything into their cloud. They insist on having you pay for iCloud through obnoxious means. They have you go through their store for everything. They even have an ad platform. What supposedly so good about it? Their tr…

> Because from where I stand they do load everything into their cloud. They insist on having you pay for iCloud through obnoxious means. They have you go through their store for everything. They even have an ad platform. It's very easy to completely disable iCloud. I've never used it and don't intend to, despite running a mac as my primary computer for ~12 years now.

> It's very easy to completely disable iCloud.

My experience widely differs.

Apple will nag you all the time if you don’t have iCloud or just use the free tier and the free tier is very limited. You lose the only way to actually easily sync the phone when you disable it.

Most of the iPhone owners I know including me have caved and pay the additional tax every month.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by theshrike79 »

pornel wrote: post #65
jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

The Nano model is 3.2B parameters at 4bit quantization. This is quite small compared to what you get from hosted chatbots, and even compared to open-weights models runnable on desktops. It's cool to have something like this available locally anyway, but don't expect it to have reasoning capabilities. At this size it's going to be naive and prone to hallucinations. It's going to be more like a natural language regex a…

The point in these models isn't to have all the knowledge in the world available.

It's to understand enough of language to figure out which tools to call.

"What's my agenda for today" -> get more context

cal = getCalendar() getWeather(user.location()) getTraffic(user.location(), cal[0].location)

etc.

Then grab the return values from those and output:

"You've got a 9am meeting in Foobar, the traffic is normal and it looks like it's going to rain after the meeting."

Not rocket science and not something you'd want to feed to a VC-powered energy-hogging LLM when you can literally run it in your pocket.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by wiseowise »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #763
Fuzzwah wrote: post #471

This seems like a good place to randomly drop my thoughts on switching from a Samsung s20+ to a Pixel 9 Pro. The hardware is excellent in the hand. The display is great, battery life excellent, the UI is snappy, does all the basic things I expect from a quality device. Over all, no huge regrets..... but... The scrolling in every app is just "different" from the Samsung, and in a "not as good" way. I moved to Pixel wi…

>So yeah, next time I'm in the market for a phone I think I'm going back to Samsung. Do yourself a favour and read Samsung's privacy policy first.

What about it? Asking as an iOS user.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

taco_emoji wrote: post #272
ryandvm wrote: post #99

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Same. Calendar events, reminders, and timers are the only way anything in my life gets done.

I also have ADHD!

I doubt only ADHD people are aided by this. Lots of people are just busy nowadays juggling home, work, kids, friends, hobbies, errands, etc.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by theshrike79 »

rs186 wrote: post #714
jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

> I love the idea of an on-device model My impression is that most people here haven't tried similar small models and don't have first hand experience with them. They are, to be honest, terrible. They may be good for certain tasks, but are much weaker than something like GPT4. I don't feel excited about these small models that are not fast yet hallucinate all the time.

Weaker by what metric? Are you asking them to explain the fall of Rome to you?

The point of a small model isn't to be an interactive Wikipedia. It's there to call tools, get more data, aggregate the data and return a natural language result.

It does not "hallucinate", because it only uses what the tools provide.

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