Time for a Russian diplomat to go to LA and give cookies to the protesters in show of support? [0] [0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/6/61/Victoria_Nula...
this might come as a shock but Kyiv is not in Russia
Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#782Earlier quoted context omitted.
The best quote I heard about the BLM / Floyd protests: "Too many people are saying, "It's terrible that innocent black men died, but this property destruction has to stop!" when they should be saying, "It's terrible that there is property destruction, but the death of innocent black men has to stop!"."
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A reminder to everyone for all time so we can stop seeing these stupid ass comments and we can all move on with our lives:
The punishment for no crime in the US is state-sanctioned public execution.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#783Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the Dems of 2020 understood that twitter is largely a fringe group of outspoken individuals, they probably would have won in landslide victories. Even if Biden had chosen a strong leader as VP rather than go with a diversity hire to appease the twitterites, we still could have probably avoided this.
The irony is that, if they hadn't fortified (to use Time's winking term) the election in 2020 and let Trump stay in office, his second term would have been much like the first, bogged down by Pence and the rest of the establishment drones around him, including his own kids. In that timeline he doesn't spend four years defending himself against lawfare in kangaroo courts and ducking bullets, and decide to get serious…
how do you mean "let [him] stay in office" ? less people voted for trump than for his opponent, in both 2020 and 2016
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#784I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken
Literally just don't click on the post. I don't understand - I look at the front page and 99% of it is not politics.
So, you willingly and intentionally honed-in on the 1% you don't like... just so you can complain? I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think that's normal behavior.
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#785Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? Why do you assume that that doesn’t happen? - Chicago (2014) https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/chicago-area-company-fined... - Texas (2012) https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/2-companies-admit-hiring-i... - Colorado (2025) https://www.cpr.org/2025/04/30/ice-fines-colorado-janitorial... etc.
>Chicago (2014) They were fined less than $400 per undocumented person they hired, or about a week and a half pay at minimum wage. That just sounds like a reasonable fee to hire someone without having to pay minimum wage, healthcare, payroll taxes, etc. If you put aside ethics, that sounds like the smart business move.
The business and employee still pay many taxes, even if undocumented - so payroll taxes are still payed, "The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually." [1]
[1] https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigr...
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#786If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans
Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.
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#787Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If illegal immigration is such a problem, It isn't remotely the problem or even in the same galaxy as needing this type of response. The cause for the actions is racism. The protests are due to calling out racism and removing due process. Anything else is denial or sophistry, that's the simple truth.
So all counties with strong border policies are racist? That’s preposterous. Australia has some of the strictest border policies (drastically more strict than us). Do you believe they’re just racist policies too?
>So all counties with strong border policies are racist?
Please inform me how the US under democrats has NOT had "strong border policy"? Do you know what Obama did more than any president before him? He rounded up immigrants, placed them in front of judges to give them due process, and shipped them out of the country if they did not have a legal right to be here.
Sure is funny how that is "weak border policy"
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You should talk to the anti-protest side then because they will discourage any protest. Usually they criticize the size of the protest as a few people. They then will tell you that their cause is dumb because only a few people were there. Or they blocked traffic for a few hours, so their cause is dumb. There are plenty of people that care if people protest. There are people that hate the right to assembly so much they make laws about needing a protest permit...
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#789If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans
I think most of the voters who want this also want that but the choices are: mass illegal immigration vs mass deportations. People voting in primaries should probably take this into consideration.
False dichotomy.
- Recall back to the old republican party of just 20 years ago, GW Bush wanted a guest worker program.
- Recall back to just a year and a half ago, a big bill was in congress to drastically ramp up employment laws and increase border funds - funny enough that was rejected. That rejection by the republican party _increased_ illegal immigration
- The deportation rate under BOTH Obama and Biden has been higher to date compared to the current (second) Trump administration.
So, if you want higher deportation and laws to increase border security - apparently we need to go back to the previous administration... The facts are seemingly all very topsy turvy compared to the narrative.
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#790I live in LA and have been here for almost 30 years now. This stunt is a provocation designed to get a reaction. He wants an excuse to crack heads in a city he hates and that hates him back. He probably also wants us to forget about Musk outing him on the Epstein files.
Watching this unfold here is reminding me strongly of the Ghorman plotline in Andor S2: "You need a resistance you can count on to do the wrong thing at the right time."